Gavin Newsom doesn’t have the balls/ovaries to fight fascism.
We need to remember that, because he’s gonna try and run for president.
Yup, the most he can do is mock Trump. He will only maintain the status quo.
Givesomefucks getting in early to push for the next Trump presidency
It’s 2025 why is the choice between Trump and Newsom already?
Yes even in death he was disgusting.
But more seriously, why are leading democrats so eager to say this was wrong? Which of course for normal circumstances it is.
But these are not normal circumstances, and do democratic politicians think they still can use democratic standards to debate and reason and talk the extreme right down from systemic violence against minorities, when the MAGA crowd has destroyed democracy in USA and there are no remotely fair elections?
Democrats continue to behave as if things are normal. But they are not! And even if they were, it’s madmen like Charlie Kirk that are the reason USA has so much terrorism, and school shootings.
Also by Charlie Kirk’s own statements, he was perfectly OK with being a shooting victim, and that some people must die for the rights of the 2nd amendment.
It’s not disgusting, it’s poetic justice.democrats should have just refused to comment. there’s no need to pretend he deserved any better, and there’s no need to talk about him
Charlie Kirk? are you still talking about that guy? he was a creep
democrats should have just refused to comment.
I absolutely agree, no need to comment on in, if it’s an internal right wing matter, which it probably is.
I’m going to laugh so fucking hard when it turns out it was a right wing person that shot him
Of course it was disgusting. All that blood flowing. Also that smug face.
Newsom is gonna have to get a new podcast guest :(
Gavin Newsom is a right-wing piece of shit.
I’m not sure how else this should be handled. I don’t like Newsom, and Kirk was a piece of shit who I disagree with as hard as I can disagree with anyone, but I’m frankly pretty surprised and disappointed by the responses I’m seeing here on Lemmy. This is the only social media I interact with, and I had hoped for better. I’m not trying to preach or condescend, but that’s genuinely how I feel.
I realize this is a super controversial thing to say right now but: violence is bad, even if you hate the victim. I hate this victim, and I’m still disgusted that he was killed.
I had hoped for better.
You are the one who is in the wrong. (IMO of course)
This is a classical problem of tolerating intolerance. Continuing on that path, and USA will be a dictatorship within 3 years.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
You claim the extreme should be treated with tolerance, and that’s exactly what the paradox of tolerance tells us will only increase intolerance, and in this case increase the power of the extreme right and fascism in USA.
I don’t tolerate intolerance, and I would never suggest that it should be tolerated. I also don’t tolerate violence against anyone, let alone glorify it, and I don’t find those postures to be in tension at all.
Then what should realistically be done about the intolerant when they enforce their intolerance on others (i.e. what people like Kirk are doing)?
There is no justice or actual punishment for evil people in the world anymore. The reaction to Kirk is the same as the billionaires who died in Oceangate or the CEO’s who have been gunned down this past year. People know that these upper classes view themselves as untouchable, and so i would say celebrating their deaths is understandable. Kirk celebrated the deaths of countless minorities over the years. The only ones who benefit from your pearl clutching are fascists.
So what were all supposed to how and scrape ‘ah yeah; it was a bad thing. Ah yeah, he was a great person and we should continue his work to honor his legacy’? Fuck that. He was a piece of shit, I’m glad he’s gone.
How much is dear Gavin posting about idk, the numerous school shootings? Or whatever else. No, he platforms this fash garbage and now someone took out the trash. Is violence wrong? Yeah. But the alt right have been perpetrating violence for a while now, and I’m not sad about Kirk getting shot.
