The only time this country is willing to regulate guns is when a minority uses one.
Same shit like when the panthers armed up.
It’s been like that for long before the panthers.
The FBI and other agencies framed all of the Black Panther leadership. And I forget at least California I think it was made a lot where you could not bring your guns to the Capitol Building because they did an armed protest there.
Not that facts are going to get in the way of an opportunity for them to disarm their enemies but:
Isn’t it like the law of simple averages that eventually you were bound to get a trans murderer? This is staggering almost 3k to just…3.
Yeah someone correct me if I’m misremembering but think ~1% of the US is trans so
this lines up almost exactly with what you’d expect based on the number of mass shootings.They’re no more or less likely to do it than cis people based on that chart.Math was wrong they’re actually 10% less likely than cis people so even more ludicrous they’re trying this but obviously they’re not basing the ban attempt on reality.
10x less likely, 1% of 3000 is 30
Thank you for catching that I’ll edit my post. Been a long day at work so math isn’t mathing for me lol
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oh cool, more literal nazi behavior (nazi germany actually had pretty open gun laws for most citizens, provided they weren’t jewish, romani, queer, communists, etc.).
i knew this was coming eventually.
if they can pull it off they’ll keep expanding it until only their own loyalists can own guns
Boy they love to shout from the rooftops about how Mao and Stalin took the guns, but this, this doesn’t count because trans people are subhuman to them. Fucking pigs.
They were announcing intent
After they consolidate power, their own supporters will be disarmed as well. They only protect their supporters now because they need them, once they get to absolute power they will not need 99% of their supporters. And drones will take over a large share of state oppression duties.
the Yarvinist techno-fascist wing definitely. the christian nationalist wing will allow their supporters to remain armed but only as an organized militia/brownshirt reserve.
which is why the Yarvinist techno-fascists may eventually pivot to supporting the dems since they already have their networks cultivated through the silicon valley “left”. they will push for heavy gun restrictions while speedrunning autonomous drones in the hope they can neuter the christian nationalists or at least bait them into lone wolf attacks and standoffs (depleting their capabilities and unmasking their most violent footsoldiers).
these two right wing factions know they are going to have to face each other in a full scale civil war eventually. one has sheer numbers and firepower, the other “AI and drones (eventually)” as well as increasingly larger shares of the MIC
they may agree to carve up the nation but the peace will not last
I have been puzzling about that as well, the religious rights and The business factions will have to fight. I cannot say who would win, I would think the business, which includes those techno fascists, but not necessarily, one will be subordinated.
I also gotta figure that since the business faction is more dependent on money to keep operating, and years of lead are bad for business, a protracted struggle would favor the fundamentalists. They also depend on money, but have had a generational head start indoctrinating violent true believers who are ready to go whenever.
Anyone else suspect that this was a false flag event to get the ball rolling on legislation banning trans people from owning firearms?
I would not be surprised in the least if the neo-nazi cult groups like 09A are targeting trans people on purpose to ratchet up the heat people already have towards them as a marginalized group tbh.
Reminder that 09A and affiliates are bankrolled by the fbi and is likely a Gladio style program being run
https://eventsinukraine.substack.com/p/the-o9a-and-the-rdk-i
In the course of the trial, a bombshell emerged. It turned out that Joshua Sutter, a man who had further radicalized the O9A movement throughout the 2000s with his organization Tempel ov Blood and publishing house “Martinet Press”, was an FBI agent. What’s more, he earned $140,000 from the FBI during his 20 years as an informant. This is what the Rolling Stone wrote on it:
In using Sutter as a paid informant while he continues to run his Tempel ov Blood nexion and publishing imprint, the FBI has, in effect, bankrolled one of the most extreme, perverse, and lethal ideologies to emerge from the fever swamp of the internet-driven neo-fascist revival of the early 21st century.
Either that or they groomed a very mentally unwell person into it.
tear up texas
I get the sense that gun control might actually be a secondary issue here. Maybe this is just me lacking in familiarity, but I don’t get the sense that there is any significant risk to the current power structure from armed trans resistance.
I suspect that the bigger part of this is that it’s gonna go against the second ammendment, and they are going to try to going to justify it by claiming that all transgender people are dangerous and/or mentally ill. Establishing that in legal precedent seems like a direct stepping stone to monitoring and legislating against them en masse.
you fail to apprehend that fascists are mewling cowards terrified of doing their pogroms on any group they think liable to have guns
Well tough shit for them because 3d printers exist
Be that as it may, I get the sense that the main motivation here isn’t fear of retaliation, but that of making the trans individual one that is legally recognized as pathological and hazardous to society.
Fascists are weird. They both are paranoid that any member of a group on their shit list will be the modern day Spartacus and come after them for revenge…thus justifying further oppression. However, when any minority group does so. They’re genuinely dumbfounded when people retaliate.
agreed, the fear here for me isn’t the guns, its the justification for taking them away.
Exactly right. They are setting precedents now to use when shit hits the fan. Full on Nazi shit they plan.
Can’t wait for the logical pretzels from the NRA crowd about how this isn’t a violation of and encroachment on 2nd amendment rights.
“they’re mentally ill! they shouldn’t have guns!!”
so you support making people pass mental health exams before buying guns?
“no!!! thats against the constitution!!!”
i would bet my last cent this is how that conversation would go
Thing is I know actual gun nuts, and while they may be transphobic af, they would be pretty opposed to this.
I’m talking the people who make guns their entire political and personal identity. Which comprises a not-small number of Americans.
It’s going to be telling, because there’s the second amendment types that are single issue voters that aren’t super invested in conservative politics as a whole, they just vote Republican because they see them as the second amendment defenders. But there’s also the types that see gun politics as a tool subservient to the conservative project, which is what I see as the NRA types (I grew up around gun nuts too, and plenty of them were skeptical of the NRA). So if this materializes, we’ll see who the true believers are, and who is gonna put cultural conservatism first.
some are some aren’t. gun people got real mad at karl inrange and replacement southpaw for saying constitutional rights are for everyone
I’m talking the people who make guns their entire political and personal identity. Which comprises a not-small number of Americans.
from the NRA crowd
You mean SCOTUS?
Oh so now they’re in favor of gun control when it’s a trans person who committed the violence, but every time it’s a cishet white fascist (most of them) all we ever hear is “now is not the time to talk about gun control” “don’t make this political” “muh second amendment”
Modern American gun control was started by Regan in California to combat the panthers (and probably other groups, it’s been a long since I did a deep dive on this) protecting their communities against police violence. This isn’t new in the slightest.
Oh yeah I know about the Mulford Act, I was just acting incredulous to point out the hypocrisy (which the fascists also don’t give a shit about)
Yeah, don’t think I need to tell anyone this but fascists indulge in hypocrisy as a flex. Look at how wrong, how hypocritical they can be and still get the support of everyone.
If they can play the discourse game with cheats enabled, that’s exactly why you’re better off just mocking fascists. Pick the weakest link among them (church boomers, incels) and relentlessly attack them and imply everyone to the right of stalin must be as pathetic as an incel.
I do like the idea of implying Stalin is a bellwether for reasonable politics and anyone to the right of him is too far right. I do think a world where he’s considered the right wing extreme of the Overton Window sounds pretty good.
Washed up old Cold Warrior: “Stalin was a fascist dictator!” Okay, so you’re saying we need an Overton Window shifted so far left that Stalin appears to be on the furthest corner of authoritarian right? Sounds all right to me!
“First time?”
See the thing is America does have gun control, it’s just always about disenfranchising marginalized groups instead of improving public safety.
Might be a good thing, if the same reasoning can later be used as the precedent to keep everyone else from owning guns.
Concerning
