In an interview hosted by Politico, the California governor said the US must ‘wake up’ to the the threat posed by the president’s disregard of democratic norms
Donald Trump is gravely serious about running for a third term in violation of the US constitution, California governor Gavin Newsom said on Wednesday, warning Americans to “wake up” to what he described as the president’s flagrant disregard for democratic norms.
“I don’t think Donald Trump wants another election,” Newsom, a Democrat, said during a live interview at a summit hosted by Politico in Sacramento. “This guy doesn’t believe in free, fair elections.”
Newsom, who has gained national attention in recent weeks for his merciless trolling of Trump online and who is widely considered a presidential contender, said he had a stack of two dozen “Trump 2028” hats sent to him by the president’s supporters.
He can be as serious as he wants. He won’t live to run again.
That One Big Beautiful Obituary is coming. And soon.
Strom Thurmond lived to be 101. He was in in congress from 1956 to 2003. We can all hope for the Big Beautiful Obituary, but only the good seem to die young.
And nor will that be the end of our struggles
Not even the beginning of the end.
We’ll go from his incompetent bumbling to professional fascists running things. And that shit is going to be a nightmare.
I am 100% serious when I say I really think the best case scenario is economic collapse and balkanization. I truly believe that’s how we get out with the least amount of blood spilled.
Spades are broke. Our systems. Our guardrails. They’ve all failed or been purposefully exploited and compromised. The Heritage Foundation has spent 2 generations finding every chink in the armor of our govt they can in order to exploit it. There’s no fixing it. There’s no going back to normal. Can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube.
It’s already professional fascists running things. This isn’t his first time. They’re in charge, that’s why shit is moving so quickly. Trump is just a figurehead at this point, albeit a very important one for their cause.
One down, 77.3 million to go.
Yeah, the writing has been on the wall for a while. He won’t be leaving office until he’s dead.
Third term my ass, he plans to be dictator for life. “Term” implies some sort of permission to be there.
I mean, they’re probably the same thing. Dude’s almost 80. Honestly I think it’s charitably 50/50 he even makes it to next election season (or whatever hot mess it ends up being), he looks like hammered shit.
Term also implies there is an election lol
Even North Korea pretends to have elections. The dividing line between dictatorship and democracy is if the elections are free and fair.
Two things can be true. He can be dictator for life, and Vance can run as an incumbent in 2028.
If Trump is still alive come the next election season I guaran-fucking-tee he will try to run for president again.
Oh he is not leaving power willingly. Not at all. He’ll either get SCOTUS to say people are not allowed to serve three consecutive terms (which would also mean he implicitly acknowledges that he lost 2020) but 3 non-consecutive terms are a-ok OR he starts an internal or external war and claims a national emergency to remain in office.
I’m betting on #2.
Kissinger lived to be 100 years old. Unfortunately I think this shit bag will be around for quite a while.
Really wish he would just become unalive right fucking now.
Every day I wake up hoping that’ll be the big news story.
Why do you self censor yourself, do you have TikTok brain rot, why are you complying in advance?
Let’s be honest. He’ll just declare a “national emergency” and suspend elections, no third term necessary. He’s trying it out in DC and LA now. It’s all in the dictator playbook.
mortality is the only thing that will get him out of office at this point. sadly he has the best medical care this country has to offer. thankfully he has the best medical care this country has to offer.
He also eats like shit, doesn’t exercise at all, has a stimulant addiction, and his age is catching up with him.
Even if by some miracle he makes it to the end of this term, he won’t last for a 3rd term.
After that the real fun starts when there’s a struggle to fill the power vacuum, that could cause an actual civil war.Time for an American Year of Four Emperors
He has ACCESS to the best medical care, but he’ll demand a MAGA doctor, which means he’ll probably get some mental defective like Ben Carson, or some quack RFK Mengele will recommend.
I am hoping he ends up like President Garfield.
Lions Led by Donkeys - Episode 126 - The Horrible Death of President James Garfield
Does he really have the best care? Be honest if you were a doc and Trump gets rolled in are you going to be particularly good to him, sure you may follow the Hippocratic oath but there’s nothing saying you can’t go full WW1 combat medic and make the healing as physically painful as possible.
I’m sure plenty of doctors are republicans.
Yeah but most Republicans don’t have to be up close to his body, let alone touch it. Can you imagine how greasy his skin is?
Just follow the guidelines of the RFK HHS and that could be enough.
Perfect. He’ll be dead in 6-12 months.
For real though, RFK’s appointment was to intentionally kill and harm as many poors as possible. Christian fascists are among the most psychopathic psychology that can exist.
He is not leaving power willingly.
We shall indulge him.
True, except the guy can’t read so he’s not getting it from the playbook. He’s just being a standard narcissist and doing things that a narcissist would do.
He’s doing whatever Putin told him to
Which is odd. I don’t understand how he would suspend elections, as the states run those. So, essentially if some states refuse to have an election, and the rest do, then he loses.
Obviously he wouldn’t accept that, but the voting states will likely form the Union again, Ally with the rest of the world and crush the every loving shit of the Christian Nationalist movement once and for all.
Maybe we let them keep Florida though. Just the cock part, and have a massive DMZ across it.
I like this scenario, except for the Florida part. Florida is too beautiful to leave it to the likes of MAGA Nazis. They can all go live on Epstein Island, and leave Florida for the good Americans.
I’m trying to think of the worst place they could live. How about some remote part of North Dakota that doesn’t have any minerals? Or some very low areas that no one else wants to live in, since they don’t think climate change is real?
The Union can form an enclave around Gatorland.
“You know what y’all need? Ya’ll need Gatorland!”
Take the entire Orlando area, they’d be thrilled to get their crosswalk back and some sane leadership.
Also I love how a bunch of internet randos know about my favorite field trip spot when I was a kid.
Nah, the rest of the Orlando area has been dealing with a pretty nasty mouse infestation since 1971. Only Gatorland is worth keeping.
The cock part is the more progressive part.
Really? Damn. Makes sense why they put alligator aushwitz where they did then.
I was thinking of places like Tampa, Orlando, down to Miami. But I guess there is plenty of red down there too. Yes that’s where alligator Alcatraz is located.
Was going by the old expression in Florida, the further north you go, the more south you get.
Hopefully his heart disease is serious about preventing him.
I’m hoping it happens on labor day. Its a positive for workers and we have the day off yo celebrate.
If we could roll that back to Friday so we have a full 3 day weekend to celebrate (also because the sooner the better, but also the partying) that would be swell.
I’m going to need more than a day to celebrate
I’d rather it be a guillotine.
Ditto
I thought kidney problems are the current concern?
I’ve heard heart issues. The latest hand showing with make-up being to cover bruising from IVs to balance fluids. All speculative I think, but I’m hoping for the worst, most painful yet effective and fast solution.
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I guess they’re officially saying chronic veinous insufficiency as the cause of his cankles but people were speculating that it was heart failure or something similar.
“democratic norms”? That’s a law. Not just any law, it’s a literal amendment of the literal Constitution.
Democrats will watch a Republican shoot a baby on fifth avenue and announce “We’re forming a committee to investigate the possibility of bringing in an independent prosecutor to review the events in question. Please donate $25.”
Great whose enforcing those amendments? The Supreme Court? Who said he can do whatever? Congress who has rolled over and not pushed back in the least?
Hey now, Cory Booker did that thing where he stood in one place and talked all day, and Schumer wrote a VERY stern letter.
Hopefully we the people enforce the Constitution.
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Oh this is where we draw the line? Trying to get elected a 3rd time? Not when he imprisoned a shitload of children, seperating them from their families? Not when he threatened to invade your allies? Not when he incited a violent mob, trying to overthrow the democratically elected government? Not when he violated the constitution by getting elected after trying to overthrow the government?
The line is finally here?
The line is finally here?
Until he crosses it, at which point it’ll be a bit farther away again.
Whoa whoa whoa, hold up, if we held former presidents responsible for imprisoning a shitload of children, threaten/bomb/invade a country who thought they were on good terms, try/successfully overthrow a democratically elected government, we’d have to try nearly every president in the last century!
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The line is finally here?
Don’t you love how the “nothing ever happens” crowd doesn’t actually make anything happen.
Lemmy is largely filled with deluded children, I’ve found a few fighters here but it’s much more effective to recruit and organize from larger, smarter platforms.
Why haven’t you done anything then? Just attack people on the Internet, that’s doing your part right. Fuck off.
Because I’m not american, and it’s not my fight. I would absolutely love it if the american people could get their shit together, since for some reason, everything that happens in America fucks up Europe.
There is a wave of pushback across Lemmy from cynical dipshits pushing back on people trying to mobilize and more and more I’m thinking the site has its own, unfunded psy-op going on.
I don’t think it’s organized or funded because I don’t think anyone takes the people here seriously or thinks this kind of place will help at all with any actual movements, and I am in agreement.
(You, I’m talking about you, you’re one of the cynical dipshits who are not a threat to anyone and just exist to sound snide and say “no u” when someone tries to get people actually mobilized.)
cynical dipshits pushing back on people trying to mobilize
I’ve yet to see anyone try actual mobilization. Mostly, I read vaguely phrased “Someone should do something (violent[?])” posts, followed by “I don’t want to get in trouble so I can’t say anything further” or “Shut up, you haven’t done anything either”.
you’re one of the cynical dipshits who are not a threat to anyone
Nobody posting on Lemmy is a threat.
You sound like a psy-op
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that’s the only way I can start shit personally, I can’t explain it, but I know that’s the only chance I’d have
What roleplay anime scenario are you picturing anyway? We can still turn things around if we have more social and community involvement than boasting on the internet, there are still countless progressive organizations starting grassroots campaigns to get progressives and socialists replacing the conservative figures in all of our states and counties who are propping up the fascist federal forces.
Do you need someone to google THAT for you as well?
edit: https://www.progressivevictory.win/ here’s one, they need help. Ya’ll need something to do besides video games and hentai.
Lol!
I’m european, I’m not even welcome in your fascist shithole.
trust me it’s a shit hole, I’d leave if I was able to
I’ve prepared my whole life for this
Wow, so glad we’re just now finally getting to that line where your years of studying the blade finally are called upon.
While you’re out naruto-running through the park pretending to fight ninjas, I’ll be continuing to organize my neighborhood the best I can to get involved in our next election cycle and know who’s running for what positions so we can hopefully kick the legs out from under the establishment. If they can do it in fucking New York they can do it in every town in the US.
I may dislike Newsom for a multitude of reasons but he’s dam right here.
And I like his trolling of Trump because you know it gets under his skin.
No, that a bright red line. He is NOT eligible for a third term under ANY circumstances. If they do engineer it so he has a third term, then American Democracy is dead, and I have no obligation to follow any laws, pay taxes, etc. It’s Robin Hood Economics, and I’m heading to the nice neighborhoods.
He will start a war and declare it mandatory that he remain to see it through. And I guarantee it’ll be with Mexico. He’s already provoking them.
I agree. And then he’ll announce a draft.
I remember when roe v wade was supposed to be a line
There’s always another line. America will collapse before it improves. Luckily the rest of the world is disentangling itself from the United States so hopefully the damage will be at least somewhat contained.
Really, this is the good timeline. Imagine if America’s journey to fascism had reached its endpoint under a leader like Bush who was at least somewhat competent and capable of getting other countries to follow America’s lead. If democracy survives, it’ll be because of Trump’s idiocy.
You are optimistic. When the US supremacy and economy collapses, it will take the rest of the world with it, I’m afraid. At least The West™, but every country will feel it.
Trump has been looking pretty shit lately, more than he usually does. And has been talking about getting into heaven. I don’t think he gets to 2028. Though I guess they could try some Weekend at Bernie’s shit with him, wouldn’t really put it past the current people around him.
Weekend at Bernie’s? They will put his corpse on a golden throne and run enough currents through his body to pretend to have a pulse, and worship the god emperor regardless
Don’t give them any ideas. That shit is only fun as science fiction.
Well, consider this: Palpatine was unable to sit on the throne when he had all of the electricity and sith magic and shit flowing through him. It was only after he like stole the life force from the girl and the guy who was bad (but had a change of heart and now it’s all good, no big whoop) that he was able to get near, and eventually sit on, the throne.
Seems pretty clear that electrifying the hypothetical non-living president while sitting on a throne is unlikely to work.
But what do I know? I’m just a widely respected marine biologist 🙄
That is STUPID! The Constitution CLEARLY states a President Only gets TWO TERMS just like it CLEARLY STATES that School Shooters are OK!
Not gonna lie, you had me in the first half there.
What if the second term lasts … FOREVER ?
The SCOTUS has awarded him personally absolute power. Full stop. If Trunp decides to stay on he’ll do an executive order and say it has to be you can’t run for three consecutive terms (which would be hilarious cause it implicitly admits he lost 2020) OR he will start an internal or external war and just stay on citing an emergency. It is crystal clear. He is not leaving office except by dying.
JFC
He will be 83 or more likely dead.
Trump has been looking pretty shit lately, more than his usual self. I don’t think he’s reaching 2028.
Unless they do some Weekend at Bernie’s shit with him.
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Appropriate username.
