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    Why would I pay for premium if it doesn’t remove the ads? It’s like they don’t do market research and just make shit up.

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      FreeTube is fantastic. I only discovered the concept of YouTube front ends relatively recently and I am not a normie, so the likelihood of normies knowing about front ends is practically zero. Most people think that the only ways to access YouTube content are to go to the website or use the app.

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        I think it’s because it’s a desktop app only (for now) and most people are consuming content on handhelds? Just a theory…

        Freetube does need an app. I use a fork of NewPipe called PipeBender on Android and it works most of the time but not all the time. Freetube has never failed me though.

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    I hope more and more people learn that spotify can also be used to host videos.

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    Christ, premium light is still fucking 8 dollars a month and you don’t even get rid of ads. The greed is fucking astounding.

    I’ll stick to an adblocker, dickheads.

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      Newpipe is all I have. I signed up for a couple creators patreon to support those I really like. Fuck Google. They are here for the investors bottom line not our shit. But people just want their shit and it perpetuates this behavior. My friend said he pays to support the creators he likes. He supports the giant corporation holding these creators ransom. Just send them money directly. Use new pipe or whatever. Quit supporting this shit and let the whole thing die until we realize there has to be a better way.

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        Why think of the consumer when you have practical monopoly on online video content distribution. If the creators are on youtube so will their audience and vice versa. Where will any of them go if you squeeze?

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      Firefox+uBlock Origin on the computer.

      ReVanced on my Android phone.

      SmartTubeNext on my Android TV.

      I haven’t seen a YouTube ad in years.

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        This is the way!!

        I even subscribed to youtube premium when it came bundled with music streaming as well. back then it was a good deal. They kept raising prices and making the end product worse. Now it just seems obnoxious.

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        As of yesterday YouTube is blocking videos for me. Until that’s solved, I’m just not watching YouTube. Not a big loss.

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          This happens from time to time. Open a private window and sign in, or wait a couple of hours for the prompt to reset. Ublock will update in a week or so to get rid of the prompts until the next time YouTube updates the detection software.

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        In case anyone is reading this and using an iPhone, Orion is the only iOS browser afaik to currently support uBlock Origin. I haven’t had a single ad since discovering that. Picture in Picture mode works too, as long as you go full screen with the video before swiping home. Hope this helps someone.

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        I’ve gotten some home page ads on revanced lately, but they’ll surely be patched out soon again

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      I truly, truly don’t get it.

      Ublock Origin + Firefox still works.

      Works just fine.

      Been that way for over a decade.

      Yes, if you’re more privacy concerned (and there are good reasons to be) you can use some other browser, something like NewPipe, or Invidious…

      But I just don’t get why any normie, ever, goes for YT Premium…

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        Ublock Origin + Firefox

        YouTube started detecting and complaining about that yesterday (for me).

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          It complained about it for me as well.

          And then kept working.

          I am currently crippled and basically just do PT, shitpost on lemmy, and watch youtube… all day long.

          If it was gonna block me after 3 videos, it missed it by about 100.

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    It will literally never end.

    This is why anyone who was excusing advertising at all is part of the problem and should be seen as a useful idiot.

    Stop lowering your standards so people richer than you can be even richer.

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    Genuinely though, the point of YouTube premium is to get rid of the ads…

    We seem to be making cable TV again where you pay a premium for the privilege of being advertised to

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        YouTube Premium Lite is Premium, it’s in the name. I presume the OP is saying the only reason people buy Premium is to be rid of ads, therefore Lite is pointless.

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    Or, and hear me out: just install a browser plugin and forget ads exist.

    I hesitate to name extensions names, but I’ve literally never seen an ad on YouTube.

    These companies don’t respect us, so I don’t feel the need to respect them by allowing them to force their meaningless bullshit down my throat.

    I don’t use it that much, but you better believe if I go to YouTube to watch a video, that video is the only thing I’m watching.

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        Oh I know, I’ve been here for years despite the age of my account. I just migrated from lemm.ee

        I tend not to like to name these types of extensions because more exposure puts them at risk, and they’re super easy to find anyway.

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          It’s better to name known safe options rather than leave it up to user search. The entities that work against extensions like uBO are already well aware of their existence, so hiding their names has no benefit.

          Case in point - uBlock and uBlock Origin are not the same, with the former being a bastardised version that does ‘acceptable ads’. There are plenty of other poor blocking options out there for the unsuspecting to stumble into besides that.

          Personal setup is Librewolf/uBO on the client and pfBlockerNG/Snort for network level blocking/additional security layer.

          And welcome to .zip :) Hope you enjoy the new home!

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          exposure puts them at risk

          they’re super easy to find

          that one meme with the dude surrounded by question marks

          E: or that one of Trump and another dude in chairs talking about a piece of paper

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          uBlock is already pretty much known as the best adblocker in the internet. Not sure what more exposure it could get.

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      Firefox + ublock origin + sponsorblock and I haven’t seen an ad on youtube in all the years since I started that combo.

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        Yesterday evening I got a pop-up that I should disable ublock from youtube. Refreshing page got rid of that but apparently it’s time for me to run some updates on this thing. I’ve seen that few times, google changes something and as I’m a bit lazy to run updates my system sometimes gives the pop up.

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      There are people out there Who don’t watch YouTube on their PC. Can’t install a browser plugin on my TV.

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        Well, you shouldn’t watch smart tv anyway. Shut off that slop and use your tv as a dumb tv through a computer. The other way is just asking to be exploited.

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          That way I won’t get DolbyVision metadata though and getting surround sound workin is a chore, also. Not to speak about comfortable control from my couch without a keyboard/mouse.

          Instead, I use an appleTV. It’s ad free, supports all streaming services I need (including my jellyfin) and almost all common video, audio and HDR formats. Even supports VPNs for getting around geofencing.

          Besides the initial purchase price (which is steep but there aren’t many comparable devices), not having adblock working in YouTube is really the only actual downside. And for that a few friends and I share a YT family subscription. Has the benefit of my views actually paying the creators for the content they provide me and us not having to pay the ridiculous amounts of solo subscriptions.

          Would never use the integrated SmartTV feature of the vast majority of TV manufacturers (LG used to be so good before they put ads everywhere). My TV hasn’t seen an Internet connection even once.

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      They’re trying to block adblockers again, it seems. I got the “adblockers are not allowed” popup again recently.

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    Cable TV providers in the 70s: “No commercials when you pay for our services!”

    Cable TV providers in the early 80s: “Ok, we actually meant no commercials on premium channels, but local channels will, and it’s not our fault.”

    Cable TV providers in the late 80s: “Fine. What we meant was no commercials on movie channels.”

    Cable TV providers in the 90s: “Uhm, so only on-demand shows will be commercial free.”

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    Adblock/revanced are working. Google’s ad revenue is getting squeezed and so they need to shoehorn more ads everywhere to get the same revenue levels, since so many people never see the ads.

    Keep using them. You’re making business really difficult for scummy Google.

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      Adblock, maybe a noticeable fraction on desktop, but Revanced users are within a rounding error of the total users, surely?

      I feel like both populations are now dwarfed by the numbers watching YT on their TV’s built-in apps, which throw demented amounts of ads at you.

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        I’m dating this person and we were watching YT and she didn’t have any ad blocker up and I was fucking blown away

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        Revanced users are within a rounding error of the total users, surely?

        Some of us use NewPipe. 🤷‍♂️

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        The $ revenue share to creators per video view has dropped, even though the percentage of Google’s ad revenue shared with the creator has remained the same. So to me this means Google is earning less per video view. (That could also be just a result of the ad market in general collapsing, eg advertisers just pay less)

        Also, Google has added new requirements to get the video share. You need to post new videos at a regular cadence, or they kick you out–even if your old videos are still getting views. (began being enforced in 2023, I think). Its another way they can keep their revenue numbers looking OK by cutting a cost associated with older videos.

        Google has also escalated their efforts to make it more difficult to view content without also viewing the ads.

        So maybe its wishful thinking, but I think they are feeling the squeeze.

        Unfortunately unlike the reddit or twitter situations its significantly harder to accumulate enough fresh video content to attract the views necessary to get the ball rolling and make a shift away from YouTube.