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GiddyGap@lemm.ee to politics @lemmy.world · 7 months ago

Conservative Christians were skeptical of mail-in ballots. Now they are gathering them in churches

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GiddyGap@lemm.ee to politics @lemmy.world · 7 months ago
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  • LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world
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    How does that work with the tax exempt status from IRS?

    • GiddyGap@lemm.eeOP
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      Evangelicals have been trying to get rid of the Johnson Amendment for many years so they can receive tax freedom and engage in politics more freely: https://www.npr.org/2018/03/22/596158332/another-effort-to-get-rid-of-the-johnson-amendment-fails

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    So they’re ballot harvesting? I thought rePUBEicans were against ballot harvesting. Does that mean that 2000 mules was a DIY video instead of false and misleading information?

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      Their accusations are usually confessions, after all…

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    Boy are they going to be upset when they learn what Dejoy did to USPS processing infrastructure putting mail-in ballot processing at risk. Truly a “leopards ate my face” event here.

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      Nah, they’ll just blame Muslims or immigrants or something fucking stupid, they’re not intelligent people.

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        Haitians are eating our ballots!

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          Oh, damn, I just found my ballot in the basement. Oops!

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      Can someone explain to me how four years into the Biden administration, the USPS is still saddled with that Trump-era turd?

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        Podcast I’ve been listening to for years has been signing off with “Fire DeJoy!!!” on nearly every episode… (The Professional Left)

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          I need a new podcast, pitch it to me?

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            Oh, The Professional Left. I meant to add that…

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        if slate is to be trusted, it’s not trivial: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/02/biden-cannot-fire-usps-louis-dejoy.html

        The republican party is a pervasive blight on our government.

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    Tax 'em. They don’t get to have religious exemptions AND be proactively politcal for their own gain.

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    Besides the obvious hypocrisy, one thing to get from this is that conservative leaders understand that you need to organize to win elections. Let’s make sure they’re out organized

    Find how to register to vote for where you are

    Find opportunities to volunteer for dems around you and online

    Write letters to voters in swing states or in competitive downballot races

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    They’re not skeptical of mail-in ballots, they’re skeptical of non conservative mail-in ballots

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    Religion is a cancer and the ignorant and afraid are its malignant tumors.

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    I bet they’re helping they choose candidates too, but let’s not talk about that.

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    ZOMG, are they doing…ballot harvesting?

    /clutches pearls

    I thought that when organizations like ACORN did something like this it was going to be the end of civilization and they had to be taken down with nonsense from the likes of James O’Keefe, for the good of mankind?

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    Churches are social organizing spaces, they have been involved in politics since the very beginning. As long as they are doing it the right way, by encouraging voting but not voting for a particular candidate, and running voter registration drives, driving people to the polls, that’s good. We want more people to vote.

    It’s not hypocritical to once be skeptical and then learn that something is OK. That’s called learning.

    I blame people for being obtuse when they were complaining with zero evidence that there was a problem, I don’t blame people at all for working legally to increase voting.

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      They often endorse conservative candidates outright or imply who to vote for through heavy social pressure.

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        Not all of them

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          often

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            There’s zero evidence that it’s happening “often” so I’m mostly using the space to point out that there’s more to “church” in America than the white evangelical politics-forward churches they see represented on TV. Those pastors are on TV because they are the exception.

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              Man you’ve got me conflicted. On the one hand, Internet edgelord atheists are annoying twats when it comes to projecting their specific Christian trauma onto the world, but that doesn’t mean they are wrong about Christianity specifically.

              Also not sure if we “want more people to vote.” The average American is wildly unqualified to decide the future of a nation.

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      Not to diminish from your point, yes absentee ballots are good, just

      by encouraging voting but not voting for a particular candidate

      You know this isn’t happening.

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        Every church I’ve ever been to has been carefully non-partisan on candidates. It’s not just tax status, they don’t want to cause parishioners to feel unwelcome because they need the attendance.

        I know some churches are being overly political, sure, but I absolutely believe the majority are doing the right thing.

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          And I can list as many that I’ve been to that don’t. Anecdotal evidence holds

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          Then you’ve had good churches. But don’t discount something just because you’ve been lucky.

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          They’re not. Every church I’ve ever been to has preached that Democrats are demons.

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      As long as they are doing it the right way, by encouraging voting but not voting for a particular candidate

      Yeah that’s not what’s happening. They get a sermon every Sunday about horrible immigrants and the woke agenda. Then at this event they get told to make sure they vote Christian. It’s specifically the evangelical churches and mega churches doing this.

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        And at least one religious college where I live. They were bussing students to polling stations

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          Yep. They understand it’s about getting their people to vote while making sure the other group doesn’t

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