Their version of Utopia is more like the movie Elysium. A separate paradise for them, the Dregs for the rest of humanity.
That, too.
Infuriatingly, dystopian science fiction is supposed to be warnings about the excesses of capitalist feudalism, except techbros start to use those as goddamn instruction books.
Somehow they imagine themselves the hero, but they’re the contributors to the dystopia they create. Like the evil dictators that somehow can’t understand how twisted the world is they created.
How is that a bad thing? It’s exactly what we all should be working towards.
It’s not, he’s just lying to coax more investment
Sounds pretty good to me, too
And we’ll all get UBI, right? Haha, just kidding, he’s too busy hoarding all the wealth.
But they will still find a way to control us and make us slaves.
Elon Musk predicted that AI and robots would eventually allow work to become optional for human beings, that money would become “irrelevant” and poverty would cease to exist.
I mean first off, we’ll need “AI” to actually mean something other than marketing bullshit. Actual AI (what’s being called ‘AGI’ nowadays, but that’ll be bastardized the same way ‘AI’ was) doesn’t exist outside of science fiction. If that day ever comes (my money’s on humans being extinct before we get there), then yeah that’s gonna be a humanity changer in par with discovering fire or electricity.
Second, we’ll need the folks who run that tech to actually be benevolent, and the odds of a billionaire becoming benevolent are even lower than real AI becoming a reality.
Third, poverty could cease to exist RIGHT NOW if people like Elon Musk got the guillotine treatment they deserve. No AI necessary.
Third, poverty could cease to exist RIGHT NOW if people like Elon Musk got the guillotine treatment they deserve
Never forget that elmo ran his mouth about using his money to solve world hunger, and when the UN organization in charge of hunger came back with a detailed plan… nothing. Poof. The little shit tucked tail and ran.
Oh no we’re never forgetting that, or the fact that shortly after he used even MORE money than what the UN proposed to buy Twitter instead
My concept of utopia is a world without billionaires
Elon musk: The empty promises nazi.
More like Elysium…
I hate the loser as much as the next guy, but post scarcity built on automation and androids isn’t a bad thing just because he mentions it.
It absolutely is a bad thing. There’s a version of “post scarcity” where everyone is provided for and cared for, and there’s the one these assholes are aiming for, where most are left to languish. His is unquestionably the latter.
Languish is a strong word, post scarcity heavily implies most of our desires being met, not a minimum to survive.
It should still be the end goal in either case. Hopefully, we can have proper change before it to avoid some kind of techno feudalism.
Y’know, you can also achieve post scarcity by reducing the demand. And you can reduce the demand by reducing the number of people whose needs are too inconvenient or expensive to be met.
He never implied or stated that a large populace would get to partake in this ketamine-induced fantasy land.
My point is that what he’s aiming for isn’t what you’re imagining or describing. He doesn’t want comfort or care for others, he wants to have as much money and power as he can possible claw in, and others having something means he has less to hoard.
In short, he’s lying and it’s important to understand that.
Then maybe OP should have written that instead of what they actually wrote. Are we all supposed to share a mass delusion OP wrote something else? Words mean things.
oh looook, what a suprise, you’re a condescending, pompous asshole in every single comment.
wonder why someone wouldn’t respect you?
U mad, brah? Not our fault your fee-fees brittle & logic offends you.
It’s also not what this image is saying either.
Yes we know what Musk actually wants, but what’s being described in the image is quite nice
“The image about what the billionaire psycho is saying isn’t really about what the billionaire psycho is saying.”
That’s not how this works.
Musk: “Don’t kill puppies”
You: I’m going to kill so many fucking puppies
This is where we are at right now. Yes we do know Musk is a bad guy, but even bad people can say good things.
Having robots labor for us would be great, just because Musk said thay doesn’t make it evil. But because Musk said it we can infer he has some additional motives, but the statement itself is still a good thing
Like we don’t have to be this unnecessarily absolute and obtuse about things.
You: I’m going to kill so many fucking puppies
I already said that there’s an actual good version of post-scarcity, good try though. And letting wolves in sheep’s fur lead you into the slaughterhouse because they put up a sign that says “Utopia” is just going to doom you and everyone else.
OP had plenty of opportunity to write exactly what they meant. Responding to the meaning of words is exactly how this works.
Rejecting an idea as stated because you don’t like the source is genetic fallacy. Basically
you: MUSK BAD: THEREFORE, EVERYTHING MUSK SAY BAD
Musk: 1+1=2
you: BAD
You know how moronic your comments look with this shit?
All we need is Musk to profess a love for Marxism-Leninism for tankies to renounce it on lemmy.
Hopefully we can have change so we get what he predicts and not what he wants.
Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism when ??
The only X this guy deserves is pressing X to doubt. Im sure this will happen some day if we all dont go extinct, but if he is involved it wont be as he says here.
Can we please stop paying attention to what this Nazi saluting man baby is saying?
Does that mean healthcare, housing and nutrition will all become basic human rights as well?
None of our billionaires are seeking a Star Trek, united federation of planets (countries) utopia, where money is obsolete.
They’re all looking more towards the empire dystopia of Star Wars.
They have been selling us the promise of leisurely utopia since the industrial revolution. The only way we get shorter work weeks is by sacrificing capitalists
