• melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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    Megan Kelly follows the “if you’re old enough to bleed, you’re old enough to breed” playbook.

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    I mean, technically correct?

    People use the term wrong, but people who are ruled by emotion and not facts hate to think things through rationally. Which is the majority of everyone.

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      I’d add that pedophilia could be the genera and ephebophile the species.

      Or whatever the corresponding trinomial nomenclature is.

      A teenager is still a kid. Legally, ethically, morally.

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      I disagree. Look in the dictionary, or a few dictionaries, and you will see that there are multiple definitions, one of which matches common usage.

      This happens all the time with language. Sorry, but you gotta keep an eye on how words evolve!

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      Technically Pedarest. Sure. It’s still 10 times to Monday illegal and disgusting.

      Watch them keep moving the goal post. Next “10 year olds are practically teens!”

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      Let’s be real. The right is “protecting kids from trans people” because they think transexuality is socially contagious and they don’t want to fuck trans kids.

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    Ah, Megyn, glad it’s not some guy spouting “old enough to bleed, old enough to breed” like my drunk uncle at Thanksgiving…

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    He’s not a Pedophile unless he comes from the Pedo region of Epstein Island, otherwise he’s just sparkling child molester.

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    Ohh okay so now we’re going with the “they’re mature to marry once they hit puberty” thing Somalia does. I feel real bad for Megyn Kelly’s 14 year old daughter.

    What a POS

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      This talking point is very popular among the right wing libertarian guys who are so offputting they cannot date their peers.

      It’s also popular among Christian fascist theocrats who want to be able to date and marry children.

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      It is spreading for a reason though. There certainly is a difference between raping an 8 year old and a 16 year old. And medically it is defined as “sexual interest in prepubescent children.” https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19327034/ People have started slinging the term even at guys dating 20 something year old women just because they are 50 or 60. In short, the term has been made into a dog whistle and used were it doesn’t apply because it carries more negative connotations than terms like statutory rape, sexual assualt of a minor, sex trafficking.

      Frankly, I think the term has been cheapened by this misuse. Now when people here someone is a pedo, instead of immediate revulsion, they have to ask, “what kind of pedo”. It shouldn’t be that way. All of the phrases should be bad enough that we don’t need to exaggerate. So it is more the acceptance that statutory rape is ok that is the source of the problem.

      That said, the motives for this talking head to say what she said are purely political. Her words aren’t worth spit.

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        The biggest tragedy about everyone on the left using pedophile as a dog whistle is that it actually directly harms children in my opinion. Pedophelia is a mental disorder, and just because someone is a pedophile doesn’t mean they have ever or will ever harm a child or anyone else for that matter.

        The problem with everybody using the word pedo and creating such a hateful and negative reaction to that word instead of the more proper term of child sex offender or child rapist, is it directly results in pedophiles who want to get mental health help to ensure they never hurt a child, never will and they will just keep it quiet because their entire life will be destroyed if they try to get professional help.

        Of course, everybody is always responsible for their actions, but all of you using the word pedo in such a negative and catch-all way directly results in children being harmed.

        You all need to use better terminology, like rapist or child sex abuser, not using a real DSM-5 mental disorder to vilify.

        I won’t compare it directly to any other mental disorders because I will get a significant amount of hate, but imagine picking any other DSM-5 disorder and using it as a catch-all to vilify, it would be unpopular.

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    She has a 14 year old daughter

    If you tell someone not to fuck kids and their response is “actually 15 year olds aren’t kids” then that person is a pedo.

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    If you use the definition of hebephilia or ephebophilia as an argument about anything I’m going to think of you as a pedophile.

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    It’s like what critters are or aren’t “bugs”

    Entomologists usually limit it to Hemiptera, or even a more specific sub-order, while colloquially it just means any terrestrial arthropod

    Ants, bees, beetles, and butterflies technically aren’t “Bugs”, but they’re still bugs.

    Adults who fantasize about or engage in sex acts with minors above the age of 13 technically aren’t “Pedophiles”, but they’re still pedophiles.

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    It’s already been pointed out how wrong and gross this is.

    But for the sake of discussion let’s give her the biggest possible benefit of the doubt.

    So then the president of the united states was ONLY a human sex slave trafficker. Super.

    unfortunately I think her handlers know that simply planting a seed of doubt will work on many in their audience.

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      And child rapist. Even if you want to be pedantic about what qualifies as pedophilia, statutory rape is still rape and some who’s not an adult is still a child.

      And if you want to be extra pedantic, it’s worse. Following a response above, one is a mental disorder that can be lived with, whereas the other is taking action, actually sexually assaulting children

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    Oh, they’re going the “explaining the difference between a pedophile, a hebephile, and a ephebophile” route. Let’s see if it works out for them.

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        Is it really rape, if the guy enjoyed it?

        • Republicans’ next talking point

        These people are sick in the head.

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          When women are stripped of personhood, then the actions of these rapists and sex traffickers haven’t actually hurt any people.

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      I hate that I know the words hebephile and ephebophile. I only know them because of people who do weird mental gymnastics to justify their creepy behaviour. “Um actually, he’s an ephebophile, not a pedophile” is a huge red flag whenever I see it