The right-wing playbook in action. It’s really interesting (and evil) how their rhetoric evolved to take advantage of the weaknesses of modern liberalism. The reason we shouldn’t accept their speech into just any space is because, pardon my French: it isn’t on the fucking level. They’re not trying to win a rational debate. They’re just trying to win, through whatever means necessary including exaggerating, lying, and bullshitting.
I am probably preaching to the choir here but if any of y’all haven’t gone through it, the whole right-wing playbook series on Youtube is pretty much mandatory viewing at this point and definitely made me abandon my ‘we should debate them in the marketplace of ideas’ stance.
i still remember the 2016 era fucking insufferable “lets be tolerant” arguments like “we should respect their opinions even if we don’t agree” and “you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar”
yea. how did the “let’s be kind to nazis” approach work out? american citizens are being rounded up and deported just because they’re brown, and we STILL have high profile prominent people saying “let’s have a discussion” instead of at the very least pointing out that kirk himself said a few deaths are worth 2a, so he was LITERALLY asking for it. literally as in literally, not the bullshit victim-blaming “she was asking for it” comment on rape from the collective maga face anus
We’ve (collectively) voted Nazis into being in charge…
If you think they’re going to let us vote them out again, I don’t know what to tell you. They for sure won’t. There’s a decent chance Trump cheated his way into office this time as it is.
The second amendment was our final check and/or balance. It seems insane to oppose it in the face of fascism.
Why would you want to be disarmed when Nazis are running the country, AND HOW IS THAT BETTER OR DIFFERENT THAN THE 2016 TOLERANCE YOU’RE REFERRING TO???
No, I don’t want violence or murder or anything else. At some point though we may want Nazis even less.
Why would you want to be disarmed when Nazis are running the country, AND HOW IS THAT BETTER OR DIFFERENT THAN THE 2016 TOLERANCE YOU’RE REFERRING TO???
i’m not understanding how you got “i want to be disarmed” from anything i said, much less how that would be better than being kind to nazis. there are many countries with guns but without the through the roof gun deaths, because they have gun laws that make sense, for example if you have a history of mental health problems and violence, then you can’t have a gun. nazis are opposed to things like that and literally ANY laws that limit access to guns–for themselves. i’m not opposed to 2a, i’m opposed to maga’s approach to it
and if you think they’re not at this moment planning and working on disarming you (and me) for not being one of them, then i don’t know what to tell you. they’ll say X group of people aren’t allowed to have guns. they’ll put it to one of those “votes” you mentioned. it’ll “pass.” they’ll knock on your door and say “our records show you bought a gun. hand it over or you’re going to jail.” if they don’t find some reason to haul you off anyway. rinse and repeat
edit: the far right collective nazi propaganda machine has spent decades of rhetoric trying to equate “gun control laws” with “they’re coming to take all your guns.” in other words any attempt whatsoever to regulate or control guns is met with bullshit like “slippery slope” and “shall not be infringed” all in order to remove from the public conscious mind the possibility that maybe we can have guns AND gun control. of course maga falls for this false dichotomy hook line and sinker. so don’t fall for it and assume that any criticism of how 2a exists in this country equates to “i want to be disarmed”
Everything they say is bullshit and in bad faith. They have no reasonable argument whatsoever.
The right-wing playbook in action. It’s really interesting (and evil) how their rhetoric evolved to take advantage of the weaknesses of modern liberalism. The reason we shouldn’t accept their speech into just any space is because, pardon my French: it isn’t on the fucking level. They’re not trying to win a rational debate. They’re just trying to win, through whatever means necessary including exaggerating, lying, and bullshitting.
I am probably preaching to the choir here but if any of y’all haven’t gone through it, the whole right-wing playbook series on Youtube is pretty much mandatory viewing at this point and definitely made me abandon my ‘we should debate them in the marketplace of ideas’ stance.
i still remember the 2016 era fucking insufferable “lets be tolerant” arguments like “we should respect their opinions even if we don’t agree” and “you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar”
yea. how did the “let’s be kind to nazis” approach work out? american citizens are being rounded up and deported just because they’re brown, and we STILL have high profile prominent people saying “let’s have a discussion” instead of at the very least pointing out that kirk himself said a few deaths are worth 2a, so he was LITERALLY asking for it. literally as in literally, not the bullshit victim-blaming “she was asking for it” comment on rape from the collective maga face anus
We’ve (collectively) voted Nazis into being in charge…
If you think they’re going to let us vote them out again, I don’t know what to tell you. They for sure won’t. There’s a decent chance Trump cheated his way into office this time as it is.
The second amendment was our final check and/or balance. It seems insane to oppose it in the face of fascism.
Why would you want to be disarmed when Nazis are running the country, AND HOW IS THAT BETTER OR DIFFERENT THAN THE 2016 TOLERANCE YOU’RE REFERRING TO???
No, I don’t want violence or murder or anything else. At some point though we may want Nazis even less.
i’m not understanding how you got “i want to be disarmed” from anything i said, much less how that would be better than being kind to nazis. there are many countries with guns but without the through the roof gun deaths, because they have gun laws that make sense, for example if you have a history of mental health problems and violence, then you can’t have a gun. nazis are opposed to things like that and literally ANY laws that limit access to guns–for themselves. i’m not opposed to 2a, i’m opposed to maga’s approach to it
and if you think they’re not at this moment planning and working on disarming you (and me) for not being one of them, then i don’t know what to tell you. they’ll say X group of people aren’t allowed to have guns. they’ll put it to one of those “votes” you mentioned. it’ll “pass.” they’ll knock on your door and say “our records show you bought a gun. hand it over or you’re going to jail.” if they don’t find some reason to haul you off anyway. rinse and repeat
edit: the far right collective nazi propaganda machine has spent decades of rhetoric trying to equate “gun control laws” with “they’re coming to take all your guns.” in other words any attempt whatsoever to regulate or control guns is met with bullshit like “slippery slope” and “shall not be infringed” all in order to remove from the public conscious mind the possibility that maybe we can have guns AND gun control. of course maga falls for this false dichotomy hook line and sinker. so don’t fall for it and assume that any criticism of how 2a exists in this country equates to “i want to be disarmed”