That’s what it is, group trolling, trying to find any excuse to troll somebody for a purported infraction, not caring the truth of it. That is why everybody hates the PC brigades.
Listen, I’ll bring the tone down a notch. I hear your concerns about military power. While it’s valid to be wary of its domestic use, the characterization of Eastern citizens as “obedient slaves” is an unfair and harmful stereotype. Billions of people live full, free, and autonomous lives under various governments. We can debate policy without relying on racist tropes that misrepresent entire cultures.
That is not what I fucking said. And I explained that’s not what I said. I said trying to turn us into obedient slaves. Trying to turn us into an Eastern style government. Two separate points. But in regards to China it would not be all that incorrect anyway. The factory workers in China do 6-12s, 12 hours a day, 6 days a week. No job protections, no benefits to speak of. If they get hurt there fucked. Many of them do not have residency in the city that they work in, which means they are illegal in their own country and can be jailed, beaten up, thrown out Uptown on a whim by employers and in the authorities. Now I know what you might say, they outlawed the 6-12s in China not long ago. But as Chinese workers have told us and has been published, the employers still forced them to work 6:12 and just pay them for less than that. Regardless the pay is starvation wages.
So you will excuse me if I stand up for myself against some PC Warriors trying to get offended on other people’s behalf without fucking cause.
I hear your frustration, and you’re right to be angry about worker exploitation; it’s a global problem.
But focusing that anger solely on China, using it as a civilizational bogeyman, is the issue. It ignores that our own system creates similar misery. Amazon workers in the US pee in bottles to meet quotas, gig workers have zero benefits, and millions face medical bankruptcy. This isn’t an “Eastern” problem.
By framing this as a unique moral failure of the East, you’re reinforcing a racist stereotype that the West is inherently free and the East is inherently servile.
I never said anything specifically about China originally, you are the one that framed it like that incorrectly. Eastern style government refers to non liberal democracies as everybody who reads current and past events of the era knows. Which is not you guys.
If you want to talk about China, they are a whore of Western corporations, gaining our tech and getting their factories built by western capital to save those companies money by undercutting us on labor and environmental cost, while selling all of their citizens out to destitute servitude.
It also shows a lack of logic. Because Republicans make bad faith attacks on china, all attacks on China are Republican in bad faith. It happens over and over on every subject.
The Republicans attack a federal agency that is failing, because they want to make them worse, and the Democrats and their sheep defend everything about that agency and not just the bad faith parts. You should do better you are not helping you are making things worse.
Your “Eastern-style government” framing is a colonial hangover that ignores material reality. You dismiss China as a “whore of Western corporations,” yet ignore its rapid sovereignty: lifting 800 million from poverty, leading in renewables, and building infrastructure at a scale capitalism can’t match. This wasn’t done for Western boardrooms.
Your dichotomy is the problem. You see a choice between a failing liberal democracy and a racist caricature of despotism. We see a third option: systems that prioritize material outcomes over abstract, selective freedoms. Our critique isn’t Republican bad faith; it’s anti-imperialism. You defend a system that creates misery at home and abroad, then blame those who point out the facade.
Just a question. Are you unaware of the fact that the people you are currently engaging with here are communists from all over the world, and not US democrats?
Literally none of us are democrats. We are communists and very few of us are from the U.S.
You’re getting bashed for trying to bash communist governance using talking points that would work against your average liberal. You are now getting surprised and straight up plugging your ears going “LALALALA” when someone actually has answers to the typical run-of-the-mill anti-communist state department garbage we have heard for decades.
You are getting threatened and harassed because of your view on “Eastern-Style Governances” that is antiquated and outright offensive to those users who live under those governances on here. Nothing about being “PC”, it’s legit you’re talking out of your ass about eastern-style governance to people from there on here lmao.
You should take this as a chance to learn. It is something that liberals/democrats will never do.
This is easily the funniest thread we’ve had in a long time. Keep it up!
That’s what it is, group trolling, trying to find any excuse to troll somebody for a purported infraction, not caring the truth of it. That is why everybody hates the PC brigades.
Listen, I’ll bring the tone down a notch. I hear your concerns about military power. While it’s valid to be wary of its domestic use, the characterization of Eastern citizens as “obedient slaves” is an unfair and harmful stereotype. Billions of people live full, free, and autonomous lives under various governments. We can debate policy without relying on racist tropes that misrepresent entire cultures.
That is not what I fucking said. And I explained that’s not what I said. I said trying to turn us into obedient slaves. Trying to turn us into an Eastern style government. Two separate points. But in regards to China it would not be all that incorrect anyway. The factory workers in China do 6-12s, 12 hours a day, 6 days a week. No job protections, no benefits to speak of. If they get hurt there fucked. Many of them do not have residency in the city that they work in, which means they are illegal in their own country and can be jailed, beaten up, thrown out Uptown on a whim by employers and in the authorities. Now I know what you might say, they outlawed the 6-12s in China not long ago. But as Chinese workers have told us and has been published, the employers still forced them to work 6:12 and just pay them for less than that. Regardless the pay is starvation wages.
So you will excuse me if I stand up for myself against some PC Warriors trying to get offended on other people’s behalf without fucking cause.
I hear your frustration, and you’re right to be angry about worker exploitation; it’s a global problem.
But focusing that anger solely on China, using it as a civilizational bogeyman, is the issue. It ignores that our own system creates similar misery. Amazon workers in the US pee in bottles to meet quotas, gig workers have zero benefits, and millions face medical bankruptcy. This isn’t an “Eastern” problem.
By framing this as a unique moral failure of the East, you’re reinforcing a racist stereotype that the West is inherently free and the East is inherently servile.
I never said anything specifically about China originally, you are the one that framed it like that incorrectly. Eastern style government refers to non liberal democracies as everybody who reads current and past events of the era knows. Which is not you guys.
If you want to talk about China, they are a whore of Western corporations, gaining our tech and getting their factories built by western capital to save those companies money by undercutting us on labor and environmental cost, while selling all of their citizens out to destitute servitude.
It also shows a lack of logic. Because Republicans make bad faith attacks on china, all attacks on China are Republican in bad faith. It happens over and over on every subject.
The Republicans attack a federal agency that is failing, because they want to make them worse, and the Democrats and their sheep defend everything about that agency and not just the bad faith parts. You should do better you are not helping you are making things worse.
Your “Eastern-style government” framing is a colonial hangover that ignores material reality. You dismiss China as a “whore of Western corporations,” yet ignore its rapid sovereignty: lifting 800 million from poverty, leading in renewables, and building infrastructure at a scale capitalism can’t match. This wasn’t done for Western boardrooms.
Your dichotomy is the problem. You see a choice between a failing liberal democracy and a racist caricature of despotism. We see a third option: systems that prioritize material outcomes over abstract, selective freedoms. Our critique isn’t Republican bad faith; it’s anti-imperialism. You defend a system that creates misery at home and abroad, then blame those who point out the facade.
Just a question. Are you unaware of the fact that the people you are currently engaging with here are communists from all over the world, and not US democrats?
No I was not aware of that. That would explain a lot. Thanks for letting me know. It is my fault for commenting on a memes group anyway.
Literally none of us are democrats. We are communists and very few of us are from the U.S.
You’re getting bashed for trying to bash communist governance using talking points that would work against your average liberal. You are now getting surprised and straight up plugging your ears going “LALALALA” when someone actually has answers to the typical run-of-the-mill anti-communist state department garbage we have heard for decades.
You are getting threatened and harassed because of your view on “Eastern-Style Governances” that is antiquated and outright offensive to those users who live under those governances on here. Nothing about being “PC”, it’s legit you’re talking out of your ass about eastern-style governance to people from there on here lmao.
You should take this as a chance to learn. It is something that liberals/democrats will never do.
But you’re still here playing along with us, we appreciate that