Ah shit here we go again. What’s ironic is that the Zionazis could get an easy PR win by letting them in to distribute aid but that would interfere with their long term extermination goals.
An easy PR win by letting them enter a war zone? You can only lose by doing that. For an easy PR win, they could just let the trucks enter Gaza.
I give it a 30% chance that Israel military kills them and blames Hamas, a 60% chance that Hamas kills them and blames it on Israel… And a 10% chance of surviving…
Calling me islamophobic because I’m not a fan of Hamas or “Islamic Dschihad” is as intelligent as calling someone antisemitic because they criticize the Israel government…
Oh no you misunderstand. Despite the IDF having an extremely larger kill count, not to mention a proclivity to kill aid workers and even their own citizens through the hannibal directive, you still stated Hamas was more likely to kill Greta. Despite the fact Hamas does not have a history of killing aid workers or Pro-Palestinian activists (that would be counter intuitive as the elected party of Gaza). The only reason you would rate them higher is because you, like most in the West have been propagandized to demonize Muslims, especially ones who take up arms to defend from invaders. So yeah, you’re islamophobic and should kindly fuck off.
The only reason you would rate them higher is because you, like most in the West have been propagandized to demonize Muslims
Wow… I’m talking about Hamas terrorists and do not even mention a religion, but your brain seems to really really really want to connect that to regular Muslims… Why??? Can we please stop acting like Hamas/Islamic Dschihad and average Muslims are the same??? Please??? Doing that seems to actually be islamophobic…
especially ones who take up arms to defend from invaders
If we are talking about Hamas, we are talking about those how also kind of caused the invasion… And yes, I know, the conflict did not start 2 years ago. It kind of started with the Balfour Declaration.
“They caused the invasion but also this started with the Balfour Declaration” ok so you’re just full of shit. You know damn well that Israel has been the aggressor since the beginning and you still blame Hamas for this genocide. That “terrorist organization” along with the other Axis of Resistance “terrorists” are the only ones actually fighting the IOF. But sure, pin the blame on Muslims defending their country instead of the terrorist state of Israel that has been doing ethnic cleansing since its very founding.
You’re not wrong. As soon as they let in one group of foreign aid workers, others follow. And then you run the risk of people ending the engineered famine.
Sort of defeats the point of doing a genocide if outsiders can just feed the people you’re trying to starve to death.
a 60% chance that Hamas kills them
I swear to God, the average Zionist’s understanding of a Palestinian is somewhere between Ayatollah Khomemi and The Terminator.
They’ve got no food, but they still have anti-ship missiles?
I think, the average view on a starving Palestinian and a proud member of Hamas or Islamic Dschihad differs. And above, I talked about “Hamas”, not about random people suffering in Gaza.
There is no difference between the two in the eyes of the Lavender AI.
If you’re baited into opposing “Hamas”, it is only a matter of time before you’re defending an airstrike on a hospital or the IDF gang rape of a general surgeon.
Palestinians haven’t been allowed normal elections since a plurality of the party won office. They’ve been under IDF martial law, with no working civilian government or democratic process, precisely because the Israelis didn’t want to let a Hamas-aligned civilian leadership hold any kind of power.
Or do you want to question whether Hamas still holds the power in Gaza?
Who is the Hamas PM? Name any Hamas minister. Name a Hamas MP, even. A Hamas Mayor? Police chief? Dogcatcher?
Name any single living Hamas politician.
Can you? How can a party hold power if all of its leadership have been executed?
I give it a 30% chance that Israel military kills them and blames Hamas, a 60% chance that Hamas kills them and blames it on Israel… And a 10% chance of surviving…
They’ve been doing this May and I don’t think anyone has died/gone “missing” in the Flotillas yet. Israel doesn’t want the PR win, they usually use the opportunity of the news media’s attention being turned to the Flotillas to launch some extra drone strikes in Gaza. Murdering Palestinians is much more important to them.
Letting opposing, famous people (who would of course also take and share pictures from the war reality) enter the war zone without anyone getting hurt or killed by anyone else (with Israel military, Hamas and Islamic Dschihad involved) is probably the most complicated PR win ever…
Apart from that, it of course lets the question come up “Why is Greta allowed to enter, but not actual help organizations?”. And it seems that they don’t want such a precedent, because otherwise, they could easily allow the trucks to pass.
Oh no, I 100% agree with everything you’ve said here.
My point was 1) the flotillas have been happening for a few months now and has gotten more people sympathetic to the situation (Greta for example live-streamed being boarded and captured by the IDF in…June I think?) and 2) The IDF don’t WANT the easy PR win. They want Gaza empty.
I actually wonder why they haven’t blocked telecom coming in and out. Everyone would still kinda know they’re doing a genocide, but it would be harder to visually cover, and they might be able to hide details.
Oh, it matters. You think most people are going to look on Google Maps themselves?
Quick, gut-punching visuals and stupid soundbites are the name of the game in public opinion. Even if news agencies were to show this map, it’s way more abstract and remote. The impact wouldn’t be the same as a starving, swollen baby.
Ah shit here we go again. What’s ironic is that the Zionazis could get an easy PR win by letting them in to distribute aid but that would interfere with their long term extermination goals.
In liberal corners of the United States and Europe, maybe. But in Israel this would be viewed as a humiliation and a defeat.
it would also interfere with their immediate goal of openly being cartoonishly evil.
Complete with lightning strike whenever they make a proclamation?
An easy PR win by letting them enter a war zone? You can only lose by doing that. For an easy PR win, they could just let the trucks enter Gaza.
I give it a 30% chance that Israel military kills them and blames Hamas, a 60% chance that Hamas kills them and blames it on Israel… And a 10% chance of surviving…
“War zone” is an interesting thing to call the world’s largest death camp.
“60% chance Hamas kills them” lol sure, whatever islamaphobic fantasies get you off pal.
Calling me islamophobic because I’m not a fan of Hamas or “Islamic Dschihad” is as intelligent as calling someone antisemitic because they criticize the Israel government…
Oh no you misunderstand. Despite the IDF having an extremely larger kill count, not to mention a proclivity to kill aid workers and even their own citizens through the hannibal directive, you still stated Hamas was more likely to kill Greta. Despite the fact Hamas does not have a history of killing aid workers or Pro-Palestinian activists (that would be counter intuitive as the elected party of Gaza). The only reason you would rate them higher is because you, like most in the West have been propagandized to demonize Muslims, especially ones who take up arms to defend from invaders. So yeah, you’re islamophobic and should kindly fuck off.
Wow… I’m talking about Hamas terrorists and do not even mention a religion, but your brain seems to really really really want to connect that to regular Muslims… Why??? Can we please stop acting like Hamas/Islamic Dschihad and average Muslims are the same??? Please??? Doing that seems to actually be islamophobic…
If we are talking about Hamas, we are talking about those how also kind of caused the invasion… And yes, I know, the conflict did not start 2 years ago. It kind of started with the Balfour Declaration.
“They caused the invasion but also this started with the Balfour Declaration” ok so you’re just full of shit. You know damn well that Israel has been the aggressor since the beginning and you still blame Hamas for this genocide. That “terrorist organization” along with the other Axis of Resistance “terrorists” are the only ones actually fighting the IOF. But sure, pin the blame on Muslims defending their country instead of the terrorist state of Israel that has been doing ethnic cleansing since its very founding.
Yes, it’s more complicated than you seem to understand.
There was a recent cause for the current escalation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_7_attacks
But the whole conflict lasts longer.
If you want, I could ask ChatGPT to simplify that for you.
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You’re not wrong. As soon as they let in one group of foreign aid workers, others follow. And then you run the risk of people ending the engineered famine.
Sort of defeats the point of doing a genocide if outsiders can just feed the people you’re trying to starve to death.
I swear to God, the average Zionist’s understanding of a Palestinian is somewhere between Ayatollah Khomemi and The Terminator.
They’ve got no food, but they still have anti-ship missiles?
Killer robots don’t need to eat.
I think, the average view on a starving Palestinian and a proud member of Hamas or Islamic Dschihad differs. And above, I talked about “Hamas”, not about random people suffering in Gaza.
There is no difference between the two in the eyes of the Lavender AI.
If you’re baited into opposing “Hamas”, it is only a matter of time before you’re defending an airstrike on a hospital or the IDF gang rape of a general surgeon.
I kind of got baited into opposing Hamas by… Let me check… Ahm… by Hamas!
That does not mean that I’m not also opposing Netanyahu and his far right assholes.
Both sides have terrible governments.
Where is the Palestinian government in Gaza? Name one living state official in the territory.
I don’t exactly understand the question. Hamas is the de facto government since 2007.
If you want to, we can use a different word like “leaders” or “rulers” or “dictators” or “those in power”, if the word “government” does fit…
Or do you want to question whether Hamas still holds the power in Gaza?
Palestinians haven’t been allowed normal elections since a plurality of the party won office. They’ve been under IDF martial law, with no working civilian government or democratic process, precisely because the Israelis didn’t want to let a Hamas-aligned civilian leadership hold any kind of power.
Who is the Hamas PM? Name any Hamas minister. Name a Hamas MP, even. A Hamas Mayor? Police chief? Dogcatcher?
Name any single living Hamas politician.
Can you? How can a party hold power if all of its leadership have been executed?
This is the third time she’s done this but for some reason this time she only has a 10% chance of survival?
If they let her in… She never went in.
I thought, that was kind of obvious…
They’ve been doing this May and I don’t think anyone has died/gone “missing” in the Flotillas yet. Israel doesn’t want the PR win, they usually use the opportunity of the news media’s attention being turned to the Flotillas to launch some extra drone strikes in Gaza. Murdering Palestinians is much more important to them.
An easy PR win is letting the trucks in.
Letting opposing, famous people (who would of course also take and share pictures from the war reality) enter the war zone without anyone getting hurt or killed by anyone else (with Israel military, Hamas and Islamic Dschihad involved) is probably the most complicated PR win ever…
Apart from that, it of course lets the question come up “Why is Greta allowed to enter, but not actual help organizations?”. And it seems that they don’t want such a precedent, because otherwise, they could easily allow the trucks to pass.
Oh no, I 100% agree with everything you’ve said here.
My point was 1) the flotillas have been happening for a few months now and has gotten more people sympathetic to the situation (Greta for example live-streamed being boarded and captured by the IDF in…June I think?) and 2) The IDF don’t WANT the easy PR win. They want Gaza empty.
I actually wonder why they haven’t blocked telecom coming in and out. Everyone would still kinda know they’re doing a genocide, but it would be harder to visually cover, and they might be able to hide details.
Doesn’t really matter when anyone can just go on Google Maps and see nearly every single building in Gaza has been destroyed
Pretty impressive that they had Hamas in each of these buildings, eh?
Obligatory fuck Israel.
Oh, it matters. You think most people are going to look on Google Maps themselves?
Quick, gut-punching visuals and stupid soundbites are the name of the game in public opinion. Even if news agencies were to show this map, it’s way more abstract and remote. The impact wouldn’t be the same as a starving, swollen baby.