• lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com
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    3 days ago

    I think, the average view on a starving Palestinian and a proud member of Hamas or Islamic Dschihad differs. And above, I talked about “Hamas”, not about random people suffering in Gaza.

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      3 days ago

      I talked about “Hamas”, not about random people

      There is no difference between the two in the eyes of the Lavender AI.

      If you’re baited into opposing “Hamas”, it is only a matter of time before you’re defending an airstrike on a hospital or the IDF gang rape of a general surgeon.

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        2 days ago

        If you’re baited into opposing “Hamas”

        I kind of got baited into opposing Hamas by… Let me check… Ahm… by Hamas!

        That does not mean that I’m not also opposing Netanyahu and his far right assholes.

        Both sides have terrible governments.

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            2 days ago

            I don’t exactly understand the question. Hamas is the de facto government since 2007.

            If you want to, we can use a different word like “leaders” or “rulers” or “dictators” or “those in power”, if the word “government” does fit…

            Or do you want to question whether Hamas still holds the power in Gaza?

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              2 days ago

              Hamas is the de facto government since 2007.

              Palestinians haven’t been allowed normal elections since a plurality of the party won office. They’ve been under IDF martial law, with no working civilian government or democratic process, precisely because the Israelis didn’t want to let a Hamas-aligned civilian leadership hold any kind of power.

              Or do you want to question whether Hamas still holds the power in Gaza?

              Who is the Hamas PM? Name any Hamas minister. Name a Hamas MP, even. A Hamas Mayor? Police chief? Dogcatcher?

              Name any single living Hamas politician.

              Can you? How can a party hold power if all of its leadership have been executed?

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                1 day ago

                What exactly is the point?

                I can name you only 2 people from the Israel government. Does that mean that there are only 2? No…

                Why are the names relevant? When there is a new hostage deal, there will be armed Hamas people with face masks forcing the hostages on a stage… Ask those Hamas guys what their names are… To be honest: I don’t care about their names at all. Them doing what they are doing clearly shows who’s in power.

                We all know that Hamas did not want any fair elections. I mean… Read this…

                After Hamas’s June 2007 takeover, it ousted Fatah-linked officials from positions of power and authority (such as government positions, security services, universities, newspapers, etc.) and strove to enforce law by progressively removing guns from the hands of peripheral militias, clans, and criminal groups, and gaining control of supply tunnels. According to Amnesty International, under Hamas rule, newspapers were closed down and journalists were harassed.[191] Fatah demonstrations were forbidden or suppressed, as in the case of a large demonstration on the anniversary of Yasser Arafat’s death, which resulted in the deaths of seven people, after protesters hurled stones at Hamas security forces.[192]

                (from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip#Hamas_government)

                Can you? How can a party hold power if all of its leadership have been executed?

                Why exactly can a dead person in power not be replaced with a living one?