Random Rant: I feel like reddit died after they banned all the “unmoderated” communities. All the posts became sanitized. Now reddit is adding AI and streaks and NFTs to keep people on a platform that has no more content.
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Feels like some apps a speeding the enshitification, before the beta is even public the app is dead from AI bots
Fun fact: the “Enshittification” article on Wikipedia has Reddit among the examples.
The auto-moderation is terrible and bans you for the dumbest stuff. Reddit has continually gone downhill the last couple years. Ad’s are out of control, and they love to promote religious ads and that should be illegal.
I was permanently banned for saying Trump’s health was poor and he may be dead before 2028 and wont be able to run for a third term. Banned for inciting violence…
I guess reddit really just wants a site full of bots and 50 people who post the same stuff everyday.
92 people control about 500+subs on reddit, you can guess which one they are, and the ones less likely to get banned.
I got banned when I connected to a VPN endpoint (ProtonVPN). Instant, permanent, unappealable ban. 13-year-old account. Sole moderator of a couple subs
Probably for the best though. Screw Reddit
reddit has been coming down hard on vpn users since last year. its futile one they shadowban you, rarely i see peoples ban get lifted on the shadowban sub, apparently and pretty obvious, The user said reddit “made a mistake because thier filters were misconstruing your words for somethng offensive”, i doubt reddit admins have time to look at every appeal, thats why i believe they ignore most of them, if not all accounts that are part of the multiple accounts from a single users.
I wrote a very fiery letter that I’m sure a bot deleted about how it cheapened the phrase “violence” to have it be slung casually around at speech their shareholders don’t love.
I was banned for saying something to the effect of “Fuck all the Republicans” in response to someone hating on a specific one.
My theory is they are removing all the anti-maga and replacing us with neutral/pro maga bots so it appears that there aren’t so many people against them.
Man, Lemmy on Reddit is like having to listen to someone who constantly brings up their ex in conversation whilst constantly telling you how little they care.
“Wow, my ex was in the news again. He’s running around downtown in a trench coat flashing people and trying to punch them in the nuts”
“Yeah, okay, we get it. You dated the Nutsack Bandit. No need to keep bringing it up.”
I thought they started shadow banning anyone talking about Lemmy at one point?
I’ll admit the streaks kept me hooked to at least checking in daily. Then I got a permaban so I couldn’t do streaks anymore so I stopped using the site.
How it feels to browse any reddit community bigger than 10k members:
Lol are people still using that shithole?
“Luigi”
your comment has been flagged for hate speech
your comment has been flagged for inciting violence
Your account has been banned.
If you ever make another account it will be automatically banned because our app requires your fucking MAC address.
Not true. They followed me through an extra Gmail I made but made a temporary email and have been fine for close to two months.
Does changing your MAC address help? Using a browser instead of a phone app?
If an app can scrape phone info without prompting for extra permissions, you can bet the app dev is scraping that data and storing it alongside session data for security purposes.
Web browsers are much more sandboxed. Still plenty of ways to fingerprint thoGenuinely curious about that. I can’t find any literature or blog posts about that unfortunately.
Reddit died imo when they limited API calls for app developers who made incredible 3rd party apps for the platform. Maybe theyve since fixed it, I wouldnt know since I felt cheated having supported baconreader and boost for their hard work in making the reddit exerience feel so premium. I tried the official reddit app and It was buggy garbage at the time. So IMO they pushed away a good chunk of their userbase even before the whole politicapocolypse, bann waves, community removals, etc.
While lemmy is not a perfect replacement in terms of numbers. I feel that every upvote and comment has more meaning here. People here are generally more productive and insightful. It makes me wonder how much bot traffic reddit had prior to the changes. Selfishly I kind of hope lemmy stays where it is in terms of popularity. You all seem generally really cool and It would be hard to find the real ones In the sea of reddit-esque nonsense.
I was a daily redditor since mid-2011, but I had no issue dropping it the day they announced the third-party api changes and came over to lemmy soon after. I could see the writing on the wall with that change.
So glad Boost exists for Lemmy.
Same! Boost Is definitely the best ive found. Even the free version is incredible the ads only apear in a tiny box at the bottom in the comments section. Super unintrusive, I supported Immediately after testing out other options and landing back on boost.
I just wish they could somehow implement saving posts and going back through upvoted content similar to how it worked on reddit, but i understand that there are probably technical limitations and less financial insentive.
the ads only apear in a tiny box at the bottom in the comments section. Super unintrusive
…You folks tolerate ads? Just use Voyager. It has post+comment saving, and no ads. It even has user tags.
I tried voyager, Its missing post viewing modes that I loved from boost and baconreader. I do not tolerate ads that is slander lol, I did a 1x payment to support the devs and now dont get any ads, If they update voyager with the features i need, Ill do the same.
Try Summit, at this point it’s a pretty effective boost killer and also foss.
It’s developed at a high pace (which is why it reached boost killer status quite recently imo) so if you miss any feature you can request it and probably see it added in a week or two.
I got Boost once they released the Lemmy version, and then I got one single PragerU ad. That pissed me off, a lot, those shitheads are my enemies. I basically coin-flipped between picking a different app that wouldn’t give ad space to those pricks, and just buying the ad-free thing, but laziness prevailed and I bought the thing instead. Still on Boost to this day.
Fuck advertising, the entire advertising industry, and the plain concept of forcing your brand in front of a person’s eyes non-consentually, should all disappear in the future.
Same, you can verify by checking my reddit under the same name.
Mine only goes back 11 years as I did that cool thing where you delete your account and start fresh each year for a few years.
I do like how the only times I’ve used it since is to shill Lemmy and apparently abusing a monarchist.
Reddit was nice when it was a niche…
Firing Victoria was the beginning of the end.
Cake day: 23 October 2023
Guess what made me leave lol
halloween?
Yeah I also hope Lemmy doesnt get more popular. This is a good group.
It can be a little more popular imo. We’re still just under the “critical mass” needed to get more niche instances in good shape in terms of users and discussion
I feel kind of bad though everyone should feel this sense of community.
You can if you go outside and make friends.
Ew.
True, Generally I meet people though hyper-specific hobbies like fighting games or MTG. All of which have a pretty sizable upfront cost to enjoy. Not to mention the events are usually at a store, restaraunt, venue etc. All of which costs money. Im finding it harder and harder to justify financially and I cant imagine its much better for anyone else.
too bad most of them are on reddit subs.
Yeah. I like MTG too. But what I try to do is make at least one new close friend every year. And then I’ll do stuff like host barbecues and shit and make friends with their friends. And my friend group expands. And then I have people to go jogging with or go on hikes with or go camping with or even just sit around and play cards with, all very cheap things to do. And I have a massive friend group now.
You have to put effort in though if you want that sense of community. It doesn’t just spontaneously happen to you.
Im glad thats working for you and I hope that someone reads this and gets value out of it. but no offense I think we just live entirely different lifestyles and value different things.
I will agree that your lifestyle is definitely healthier for the community at large, and politically speaking your local area is healthier having you and others socializing about or engaging with current events.
I think outliers like myself must exist in some way. While nothing I produce currently is on the same level as lets say an artist or musician. Someday I will write, program, or even just share something ive made that gives me the value and purpose I seek.
Selfish? probably, but I am constantly learning about new things and perspectives. Lemmy just happens to be a highway into other peoples minds that I very much enjoy. I did not mean to imply that I desire the same level of social belonging that others have. Ive got my family, animals, significant other, all of my remaining energy belongs to them.
Heck maybe im an asshole and youre about to slap me with a truth bomb, and thats why im here.
Art and music are not the only things of value to share with society. You can build or farm or create other things of value that you are proud of that are beneficial to society. Social structures and building community are also insanely valuable and our loss of this is one of the big reasons our society is becoming distant and segregated and weakened against oppression. An online space is not a good replacement for this, especially in the current social climate of the world and the current technological situation. Like enjoy it, but it’s candy, it’s an unhealthy substitute for the real thing. But I do also understand how tiresome the world is and I think we can all enjoy a little bit of guilty pleasure when you’re too tired to do anything else. But you absolutely have to recognize it for what it is.
it was the same time, a article reported that reddit was mostly 50% bots, what acoincidence. i can see it being bots mostly, because many subs have a bot posts people were accusing it of. non-propaganda bots can come in the hundreds, or thousands of account by 1 individual too.
Interested if you have an article or video you are referencing here, would love to read/watch
That was the major sign post, indeed
Hey, fuck you man, I’m not cool, you’re cool!
Can’t up vote you harder or enough times.
Have my love ❤️
oh, stop it you <3. In all seriousness though this whole post’s comment section Is just proof of what im saying. Gotta spread that love around Im just saying what we all kind of silently agree on.
Exactly. There are some people budding straight off of Reddit culture that still haven’t read the room here, but I try to tell them if possible, otherwise I just block. 😌 We need to foster the culture in this place. It takes a village.
I gave up on reddit the day the mod teams of were allowed to ban you from their community not because you did anything wrong, but because you were a member in another sub that they didn’t like.
That happens here constantly
I’ve only ever seen this from the kids over at .ml.
Irony is that people in .ml ban you for not agreeing with their hivemind
I’ve heard this a few times, and then I’ve seen the people that got banned…
.ml seems to be a magnet for people who want to scream explicatives at leftists and throw in some transphobia to boot.
Some people likely deserve getting banned but they have a very fragile echo chamber if they need to ban anyone not toeing the party line.
I was in an argument with someone on .ml unironically calling north Korea democratic and then they banned me because apparently I’m a “chauvinistic westerner” when I disagreed. I found that pretty hilarious.
they have a very fragile echo chamber
They have an active moderator base.
I’ve been banned from plenty of communities already - particularly meme communities - in the wider Fediverse for rubbing a mod the wrong way. It isn’t particular to .ml and it’s silly to see Lemmyites panic every time they see an .ml instance user or post.
unironically calling north Korea democratic
So what? Plenty of people in America call Florida democratic. You’ll be screamed at for suggesting otherwise (Florida voters are just too stupid to vote correctly, you see).
If you get in a pissing contest with a mod or power user, there are plenty of communities that will ban you for being toxic. Either learn to exit the conversation gracefully or stop sticking your dick in the social media blender to begin with. You’re probably better off getting banned than running back in for another screaming match.
I’d argue NK and Florida are on different levels of democratic but I see your point.
You’re probably right with your last paragraph. I do find it amusing to read when they bend backwards trying to defend something that absurd.
How is that ironic?
People claim Lemmy is supposed to be “better” than Reddit but so far I’ve encountered more petty barons here than Reddit
Ah OK. To be fair, we can say Luigi Mangione and Free Palestine here.
Outside of the conservative American subreddits that’s standard too though. I rarely see anyone (not downvoted to hell) claim Israel should continue
That was so long ago, it’s just how people in contentious communities dealt with people to save work on mods.
I know because I was involved in those apps and moderating large subs that absolute shitmouthed turds loved to ransack with brigading.
You have no idea how bad brigading was, particularly by the foul, juvenile 4chan-type crowds who would arbitrarily decide something was “pro feminist” and then flood the sub with hate posts until the mods gave up and then they would slip in their own mods and rebrand the whole community.
I genuinely did not care and still do not care if it offended some people that they were pre-banned because they liked to participate in hate communities, for whatever reason. Back then you could make alts and nobody cared so what does it matter.
slip in their own mods and rebrand the whole community
This is what really shocked me about reddit, was how it’s this really huge entity whose owners just somehow didn’t notice that the front page being shown to everyone by default contained stuff from subs that were really very blatantly and obviously manipulated by mods not being on the level. I realize you can’t police every one of the thousands of active subs on there, but what gets to go to the front page shouldn’t need much curation.
It absolutely was and is like that.
The thing is, when those horrible posts got boosted to the front, it just made for more drama, more “engagement” and more links being shared across other social media sites.
Reddit ignoring their responsibility to administrate wasn’t a bug, it was a feature.
It’s the same as what Jubilee is doing now, boosting the worst voices on both sides, making people hate each other more and giving people a distorted view of demographics in our country. It’s line going up at the expense of everything we’ve worked the last several thousand years to build. I’m happy I was banned and will never return, I just wish more people would realize what these places are doing to us all.
They sure love to admin now. The silence of Reddit admin drove me crazy. Especially when I tried to run my own subs.
Yeah. The mod infiltration by bad actors really sucked. What was it like 50 people that were basically modding entire site? Then you have unmodded communities that get banned and you can’t create a new one because the other one was banned. It’s like the catch-22 they use to keep communities in check.
Read ‘liked to participate’ as mostly lurked in their spaces. I shouldn’t have to change accounts to look over the fence. Especially if it’s because you’re being a lazy mod. I know my comment history. I said something like “I’m so sorry” once and that got be banned.
I shouldn’t have to justify myself when I didn’t break a communities rules and a community shouldn’t have the right to police my content consumption when it doesn’t impact that community.
There are a lot bigger things that we had to deal with daily, and there are lot bigger problems with the platforms, communities, and broader social impacts that remained on my mind than the small percentage of people inconvenienced by the decisions some people made to keep their mod teams from being overworked. You’re not the only one butthurt by the bot, but the alternative was worse so I still don’t really care.
So you gave up on it like a decade ago?
Pretty much. Damn…2015
You gave up on Reddit because mods can ban you for random reasons unrelated to your behavior? That’s one of a small set of problems that’s literally much worse and more prevalent on Lemmy.
I haven’t noticed. Maybe because they don’t announce it here? Still a pretty shity thing to do. It’s hilarious that a platform that is supposed to be about getting around censorship is so crazy about it. Federated stuff in general. You market it as this web of free ideas but really it’s everyone on their own island and if they don’t like you then they put up walls to keep you out. Maybe it’s from being raised in 00s internet where you were shit on for saying anything but that’s dumb. Early internet you had a voice and if you said dumb things you got ignored individually or down voted by the community at large.
This tribal bullshit is what keeps us divided. You shouldn’t be able to rob someone of their voice when they use it in a way you don’t like.
That’s how the right keeps winning people over.
All my favorite niches have gone to Discord.
Freaking Discord. A black hole where anything useful is buried under mountains of folks shooting the breeze. Oh, and with a useless search function.
Every. Single. Niche. Even self-hosting ones like localllama.
Reddit may be dead and enshittified, but at least it was accessible to search engines :(
Hardly matters though, as they just randomly shadowban me anyway…
Yeah I still don’t get why people use Discord, it’s so shitty and knowledge just gets locked up there to die
Well look here, for instance:
https://old.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1mpk2va/announcing_localllama_discord_server_bot/
Looks like a combination of:
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A power trippin’ mod looking to promote their discord.
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A feeling of nowhere else to go as Reddit enshittifies.
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Unawareness that https://sh.itjust.works/c/localllama exists because Reddit shadow bans anyone who links Lemmy.
And this is literally a self-hosting community… Look at the comments, they all know Discord is bad, but the mood is “WTF else are ya gonna do?”
For some context, localllama itself is kinda a refuge from Twitter/Linkedin spaces filled with Tech Bro stink, and it’s already been shattered by random niche LLM Discords (like BeaverAI, which you will find in another thread).
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Same reason people never bothered to do a proper search when all knowledge on the internet was indexed on forums - people can’t be bothered, and want another person to find information for them before they make a real effort to find it themselves.
I recently downloaded a mod for a game from a custom content creator who hosted their own webpage. I experienced issues, so I went to see if there was a support page of common issues. Instead, their “support” was a link to their Discord server.
Which means instead of an FAQ page, or an email account that they could respond to in their own time, this person preferred to moderate a live chatroom where people ask the same questions over and over again? On the one hand, as a user of their cc, it’s reassuring to have someone who worked on the content there to live-answer any questions. I got my problem solved quickly, so the user experience is definitely positive. On the other hand, I would’ve thought keeping up essentially a “customer support” Discord to be far more tedious and frustrating than maintaining other common alternatives.
I just can’t imagine having the time and energy to stay on top of a Discord where everyone is upset and you have to repeat yourself constantly. It sounds like a living Hell.
I wonder if discord shuts down due to lets say its predator problem, will this be a library of alexandria type event? Obviously wed attempt to grab as much as we can before the “library” burns down, but how? To my understanding every server owner would have to install a bot to grab all of that data themselves.
Someone please tell me im wrong and why because I hate this.
No, you’re absolutely right. Discord is incredibly impermanent. Besides the lack of being able to search for things or split conversations into separate threads for every topic because it’s a chat tool, not a forum, as soon as a server disappears, everything hosted on that server goes as well (as far as end users are concerned. I’m sure Discord can pull stuff from their backend).
We need a return of niche forum communities and the like for the sake of the preservation of information.
a library of alexandria type event
It already feels like that, because useful knowledge just fades away into chitchat in Discord.
But yeah, I think it would be. There are already some scraping tools (and apparently, some chat archives built by hackers), but without some crazy hack, there’s just no way around communities being invite only.
I think it really boils down to the owners of the servers doing the right thing. I mean that in terms of properly organizing the important information on their server and archiving it elsewhere simulateously.
Otherwise yeah I agree its just a furnace In which data is being shoveled into, Rather than a single event as I implied.
Again, someone knowlegable please tell me we are wrong, and a solution exists, or is in development.
I’m doing everything I can to move anything remotely important to me off Discord and into other mediums just in case this scenario happens. Or, even more likely, Discord starts asking for age verification shit. I’ve already let my friends know the day they cross THAT line is the day I will stop using Discord.
they will probably go to facebook,
Probably, but im more concerned with archiving the years of information being poured into the platform.
We need forums back.
oh yea, some ytber tried to get people in a sub that was criticizing them to thier DISCORD, everyone knew they were trying to silence them, glad people stuck around and kept the sub around.
Is that what reddit looks like now??? Gross.
they want a read only site, filled with fake bots, and fake engagement. for the purpose of being read only, for advertisement, or they are planning onf selling the site down the line. the gop and musk, thiel would very much like to have control of something like reddit, especially musk, since he has triggered 2 ban waves when he complained to reddit(they were criticizing him).
ever since REDDIT went public thats whats been happening.
The engagement farming is reaching facebook levels.
that is what reddit is trying to achieve, become a facebook clone. matter of time they push the verification that FACEBOOK uses to make accounts, if they get"suspicious"
Yes, but add entire threads that are nothing but [removed]
I’m just curious where all the users went if places like Lemmy arent growing. Piefed I heard was growing, but I kind of assumed they are getting users who are switching from Lemmy and still perusing the same content, just preferred their client options
Always did not like Reddit… As an ex newgen reddit user reddit banned me for literally no reason… Did not receive any reason, just some strange invisible ban (I could log in to account, do anything and etc and it would say Server Error)… Also this karma sh**…
I had an alt account, I accidentally upvoted my main account’s post and got shadow banned. I didn’t realize for 3 months when I was like “why the fuck does no-one reply to my comments and does not even downvote let alone upvote my posts”. But that was like 4 years ago.
literally same but I did not like myself bru
I just got an automatic 3 day ban (presumably because my comment contained the word “murder”) so I said “fuck it”, deleted my comments and posts, and deleted my account
You forgot the “woah there partner” vpn block page
I just remembered the one that really pisses me off: ‘to use reddit anonymously you must log in’.
Like cant you just give me a “are you a robot” test and let me use a VPN???
Yeah this pisses me off so bad when I need to search for something and the only answers are on reddit. Is there a way around this?
I use RedLib but I make it even easier by having an extension LibRidirect that automatically redirects reddit links to privacy frontends such as RedLib. It’s really easy to use and I don’t even have to think about using Reddit ever again. Win-win in my book.
Oh my god, you’re a LIFESAVER for the LibRidirect link, thank you! Fucking Instagram and Quora links piss me off too!
Happy to help!
Partner or pardner?
Since everyone knows it is pardner, it is just assumed that we will automatically do the translation in our heads:-P
I just wish Lemmy had the same subreddit communities on it, the real benefit of Reddit was that you can add it to your search in Google for niche things and it would find threads about that thing, Lemmy on the other hand has either not been indexed as much or just doesn’t have those communities and the organic discussion among them. I think one of the issues with Lemmy is there is some friction to joining it, you need to figure out what an instance is and which one you wanna join and then figure out an app to access Lemmy and then find the communities that interest you etc. Compare that with something like BlueSky for Twitter replacement, it’s easy to sign up and follow peoplw and they gave a official app
It’s a smaller site, as evident that your subscriptions and even the default homepage barely crawls by and there’s often days with almost no new content.
Lemmy is not going to be the future of shared internet space, but it’s a good Purgatory for the exiled before we all decide to start doing things outside.
lemmy largely get reddit users, if reddit started banning in large amounts again. but i think they caught on to the fact that if they do perma-site wide ban too many people will notice and they will jump ship too fast.
thats why shadowbans are much more insidious, people might not even notice right away that they were shadowbanned.
people might not even notice right away that they were shadowbanned.
It’s feeling very strongly like their ideal platform has millions of shadowbanned users, or more correctly, millions of users in their own instanced versions of reddit, populated entirely by AI creating the impression of community, influencing and shaping the attitudes, behavior, political beliefs and shopping habits of entire nations.
The massive influx of bots pretending to be humans doesn’t really bode well for the future of social media.
the most recent ones, palintir was blatantly obvious, i dont know if reddit has done anything about these subreddits that PALINTIR is using right now,
Im pretty sure I am on a Canadian based instance… which is fine by me. But I tried a couple that where branded as general, good for new users, and just never got a confirmation for my account, could never log in. I tried this one, cause the name implied it would work. And it did!
But yea I miss the large communities for a specific video game, and the various large mtg communities. And yea, for tech support I do still add reddit to my search queries.
Yes I ran into the same issue where you sign up to an instance and then it says that the admins will verify your account for approval and then I can’t log in for a while and forgot which instances I even signed up for, that alone probably caused a bunch of potential lemmings to not join I think. I still go to reddit for discussions about random TV show episodes discussions and other niche communities, there’s sadly no other equivalent easy to search forum that I know of for these things, hopping Lemmy becomes as huge as reddit in the future for this purpose
It’s the same problem Linux suffers from. Too many flavors, not one that almost everyone considers the best.
Yeah I agree. I feel like I’m still figuring it out and missing things. I switched to BlueSky and feel like that was almost intuitive. That’s one of the big issues with moving away from reddit for a lot of users.
Yeah what happened to that Lemmy search thing someone was working on
It’s run by a fucking dickhead worshipping Musk.
Yeah, and Reddit will permaban anyone talking about “political violence”, ideas like punching Nazis and harassing MAGAts, all the while giving the bastards a free ticket to do shit they want over there like destroying LGBTQ symbols.
There’s like, a billion fucking nazi, incel, misogynist subs on reddit that are just allowed to exist
Tell any one of those subreddit-goers to fuck off for their nazi incel misogynist bullshit? Permabanned
I just got permabanned. I have not had anything so much as a complaint about me in the 12 years I used the site, but in the last 6 months I have received 2 temp and now a perma ban for speaking out against various conservative figure heads.
I got a 24 hour ban for saying a conservative figure should stand on her head and let the blood rush to her brain and maybe she’ll have a coherent thought. I was accused of inciting violence.
Edit: Here are the 3 things I got whacked with “inciting violence”
- Danielle Smith should stand on her head to let the blood rush to her brain to have a coherent thought - 24 hours
- Someone said JD Vance will never be president, and I responded with, “He will when DT has his heart explode from all the cheeseburgers he eats” - 3 days
- Kristi Noem needs to shut her fucking mouth and keep her cunt ass out of my countries business - Perma ban
The other day I made it off hand remark about my desire to take out pent up rage on several sexual predators being shown in a video.
Instant ban of a 13-year-old account for “threatening violence.” I consider it a badge of honor against the fascist platform. Honestly it’s no better than Twitter these days.
Over on the new Digg I got a comment auto moderated by AI for describing a scenario where I angrily shakes my fist at someone and gave them a thumbs down because they almost hit a goose.
Violence
my permanent ban on reddit came when i described how i hoped krasnov would shit himself to death on live television. like, total blowout and then heart attack while eating a nasty sandwich. the full elvis. apparently that’s inciting violence.
I’m pretty sure they stepped up the anti Trump stuff since January. I never had any problems till he was in office. Then i got a 3 day ban, then 7 day ban, then perma ban. Then they banned all my other accounts immediately. They hate people talking poorly about the dictator, but i’ve seen posts that said biden should burn and they stay up…
Most people talking about “punching Nazis” are advocating punching people who are certainly far right but who have not themselves committed or threatened any acts of violence.
The Nazis of the early 20th century were committing genocide and conquest, and the only way to stop them was through violence. But if you’re talking about “punching Nazis” in the context of the UK and Frogage, their odious policies are a long way from justifying threats of violence which are rightly not legal.
In the US where Trump is attempting a fascist takeover, time will tell whether it will take violence to dislodge. But from our position it’s easy to see why a lot of these people get banned.
The Nazis didn’t just appear in Germany fully formed. Read about The Weimar Republic in the 1930s.
We’re long past the “attempted” takeover.
The threshold of Nazi takeover could reasonably be taken to be the Enabling Act. There has been no equivalent in the US.
no ‘equivalent’
yeah it’s not taking over congress, but it was another step towards eliminating checks and balances, one that should never had been taken and hasn’t led to anything positive
I meant to add more but was pushed for time. MAGA has not legislated its authoritarianism - not yet. So far it has been done by executive order and by judicial capture. This makes it hard to judge how resilient the USA will be to it.
They were nazis before the genocide and conquest
What a load of sludgy shit. “from our position” - this a group statement or…? Kinda seems like you got an AI to take your position and write a comment for you - what’s that called again? Nice prompt LLM master.
Firstly,
Most people talking about “punching Nazis” are advocating punching people who are certainly far right but who have not themselves committed or threatened any acts of violence.
Know that do you? Besides, hate based on someone’s religion or ethnicity is an act of violence in of itself.
Beginning In the 1920’s and through the '30’s, years before the Nazis committed “genocide and conquest” the brown shirts and other groups walked through the streets of Germany intimidating and committing acts of violence against those they persecuted and those who disagreed with them. That’s where we are now - or at least where some want to take us - so yes, punch the shit out of Nazi scum and their sympathizers.
Curious, would you have stopped the rise of Nazism by asking them nicely?
hate based on someone’s religion or ethnicity is an act of violence in of itself.
Pull the other one. Violence has a meaning that every English-speaker understands, and hatred does not meet that definition.
Curious, would you have stopped the rise of Nazism by asking them nicely?
Well, the KPD strategy of meeting them in street brawls went so well, didn’t it?
That’s where we are now
So, given that you just issued me a challenge about what I’d do, do I take it you’re out in the street roughing up anyone with a MAGA hat?
If not, then I think you actually understand and agree on a practical level: the situation in the US is not as clear cut as the fight against the Nazis ended up, and which people wish to invoke when they say “punch a Nazi.”
Answers no questions, half-quotes a statement to make a point, completely ignores getting caught using AI to write your comment then edits out the giveaway. Alright mate go ahead you’re doing a great job out here.
All your questions sounded rhetorical to me. I responded to what I had something to respond with.
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Are you OK? I haven’t edited any of my comments on here. Is the AI in the room with you now?
