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      I’m not sure how to take your comment in this context. Do you have more faith in the dem party to run popular and successful campaigns? Whether you have faith in the voters or not, you still need to get them to vote for you.

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        So, you think that if the Dems run a candidate with principled stances and popular positions that people would support them.

        I have no such faith in the American voter. They can’t tell the difference between principles and propaganda, and they have no idea what’s good for them.

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          Say you’re right. What do you do with that information if you’re running a campaign? Those are the circumstances. You can’t change them, but you want to win.

          For me, I understand why you feel that way, but I’m not really in agreement. I think your average voter knows good and well that politicians are generally full of shit. Unfortunately, they feel trapped by the system. This makes them either choose “the lesser evil” or give up entirely. Both of those reactions are understandable given the context. This dynamic has not improved the context.

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            They feel trapped by the system because they are trapped by the system. Even the politicians are trapped by the system. Voters know which ones are full of shit because the answer is literally all of them.

            AOC has gotten pushback recently for her vote for weapons to Israel. I don’t think she forgot where she came from in 8 years, I think she works in a system that is corrosive, where you are punished for pushing back and rewarded for conformity in ways that even the strongest principles cannot resist.

            The voters do not care and are not privy to the pressures and compromises the pols are making. I don’t think the system is fixable in any foreseeable timeframe. And for that reason, I am content to throw my vote to the least bad candidate. I’ll keep doing that in primaries and general elections until we don’t get to vote anymore. Hopefully, it never gets that far.

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              Sure, we’re all doing what we think is best. We are all worn down by the system, and by our daily struggles. Politics should be helping us. If it’s not helping, people lose interest.