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      So are dozens of others, that didn’t stop them from being enforced and acted up on.

      Unlike the laws that our constitution outlines, which are not enforced or observed.

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        that didn’t stop them from being enforced and acted up on.

        Well, technically congress can invent a financial reward for following its legislative incentives. So, Congress can essentially bribe a state into followibg its ideals, but a state can opt out in favor of self governance so long as it does jot interfere with a power expressed to Congress nor violate the amendments to the us constitution via the 14th and 15th Amendments. So, a state cannot create voting test laws and the such, but they can decide what a district does or doesn’t look like.

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    Blatantly unconstitutional. The voting is directly controlled by the state constitutions, not the fed. Even congress would need to amend the constitution to do this, but we’ll see how the bench legislators in SCOTUS rule.

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      The Constitution no longer matters when all branches of power fail to uphold it and instead collude with the Orange King.

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        Not really the same, that ruling was for the Fourteenth Amendment disqualification because Trump engaged in insurrection against the United States, that states can’t individually determine if someone engaged in insurrection.

        Article 1 of the constitution outlines clearly that states manage the time, place and manner of elections:

        The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

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          States determine ballot eligibility for their ballots. 14A S3 clearly addresses ballot eligibility in relation to insurrection. When I say that SCOTUS “crossed that line”, I meant that in the sense of “they were wrong, I wonder why”.

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      Congress could probably do it, but it would have to be functional to do so. Which it very much is not.

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    Among other serious problems, this would disenfranchise all military service members stationed or deployed outside their home state. The Democrats really should be making a big deal out of that.

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      “Oh but it’s not going to effect them at all because you see, they’re using absentee ballots which are a totally different and completely secure thing.”

      Actual talking point I’ve seen floating around already.

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      No, this is one we should be concerned about. Eliminate mail-in voting, and democrats won’t win another election again. The vast majority of people vote by mail.

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        He can’t eliminate mail-in voting by executive order.

        And before you say ‘he doesn’t care about the law he’ll do it anyway,’ no state that isn’t already fallen to the crazy will acknowledge such an order.

        This is an obvious distraction. One you are falling for.

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    It’s an executive order, it doesn’t have that power.

    Yet states and other agencies will “make it happen” as if it does.

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      You sweet summer child, that means nothing these days. Trump will have his way because no one will do anything about it.

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        Yep any state that refuses to follow this order will just have its ballots invalidated. Funny it will be mostly in blue states that this happens in.

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            All elections are administered by the states. So the order would probably be something like blocking the USPS from delivering ballots.

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            Trump will ban mail ballots. Then change voting laws to allow the fed to make the rules. It will pass. No one will stop it. Then the fed decides everything. Red “waves” etc.

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              They’d have to amend the Constitution to take elections away from the states and that’s too high a bar. 2/3rds of the House, 2/3rds of the Senate, and 38 states.

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                  Well, think of it like this, in order to pass the final hurdle, they would need all 31 of the states that voted for Trump in 2024 + 7 of the 19 states that voted for Harris.

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      Holy shit he really does think he is a king. This is terrifying.

      The constitution explicitly gives this power to the states. Even if it didn’t it would be up to congress.

      Holy fuck. He needs to be 25th amendmented and drug out of the White House.

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        We don’t need the 25th Amendment. He is in blatant defiance of the Constitution he swore to protect. It is yet another instance of a thing that anyone else would be impeached over.

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      He said “United States” but doesn’t recognize what that means. I wonder how much more things can get undermined before people really get pissed enough to sacrifice everything and stop the fall. How do you herd so many felines in the same direction?

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      He’ll just shut down USPS for the 6 weeks leading up to the next election.

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        Oregon has been entirely state-wide mail-in voting for decades. Good luck shutting down an entire state’s mail for more than a month.

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          I mean, it already worked didn’t it?

          First term the USPS was taken from a trusted, consistent, and reliable way to move mail. I to something that a considerable number of people no longer trust BECAUSE it was sabotaged.

          All he has to do is continue sabotaging our institutions, then they will no longer be effective, and can be cut down with public approval. Since voters have the memories of gnats.

          It doesn’t need to shut down, it just needs to be made ineffective, gutted, and sold to UPS & FedEx for pennies on the dollar. So private corps can benefit from our public investments, to our detriment.

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    if i had thought there were any actual chance we were going to have legitimate elections in the future i might care a little more.

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      No no, this is not a distraction. This is something he is SUPER pissed that he hasn’t been able to end. He just didn’t think he had the clout for it until now. Not everything is a distraction, and mail-in voting specifically has been a bugaboo for the GOP almost as long as it’s been around. Physical polling locations are easier to suppress, and even easier to post armed guards near to “secure” (intimidate) people into voting the correct way.