At this point, I should ask, why is anyone paying subscriptions for streaming?
You’re in for a surprise if you think buying Disney DVDs in particular IS a long term solution.
I like to rip my paid for DVDs an play them from a hard drive,to save on wear and tear ESPECIALLY if kids want to be handling them.
Except most Disney discs have an extra layer of drm that turns them in to an interesting Video Art Display if you run them through Handbrake.
Once again, even if you purchased the product, Disney forces you to pirate something you already own if you want to watch their stuff.
You don’t actually own media that you have on DVD.
You still only have a license to view it (under certain circumstances), and the media is protected by DRM. You can sell your license to someone else, transferring the license by selling them the media. But, you don’t actually own the media itself, just the plastic disc. You can’t show the media for profit. You can’t even show it if there’s a profit somewhere nearby – like showing it at a bar for free while people are paying for drinks and stuff. And, you definitely can’t do things the “owner” can do, like license it to someone else.
In theory your license can also be revoked. It’s hard to do because most DVD players didn’t / don’t connect to the Internet, so they can’t get updated lists of licenses that have been revoked. But, it’s possible that happens. I’m sure that will be a “feature” that will be added to any new DVD players that are made.
Copyright sucks.
Copyright is also how people can afford to make the content
Yep. It’s just way too long
At some point I was paying for streaming and still preferring BitTorrent experience with jellyfin/plex
I’m paying for streaming so my sister can use it. I download things from my peers rather than stream them.
Your dvd player is sitting on a shelf in a thrift store. Same for for DVDs.
I forget but there is a shelf life to DVDs and Blu-ray correct?
Honestly sounds like people should get into private digitization
Some DVDs pressed by Warner Bros in 2006-8 are defective, but most discs should still be playable.
Seems like such a massive waste of effort…millions of people just ripping their own DVDs?
Not to mention electricity.
What if one person could rip it, and they share the rip out to their friends (who posses the DVD, ofc) over the internet…and then all of their friends can also become distribution-points for others (who posses the DVD, ofc).
I think that would be swell.
Why would you think millions? Do millions of people collect DVDs?
I think it would be exactly what you’re saying. Of the few that think this way, fewer would have the skills to create that library. So it’d probably be a few hundred or thousand if lucky
Pressed discs should last a couple decades if stored properly. Burned discs will often decay in a couple years
Should be noted that flash storage like USB drives and ssds should be plugged in every couple years, to recharge the flash storage. The cells can lose their data otherwise
Burned discs is about 12 years for the organic gel to break down depending on storage method.
Aluminum discs (like the ones purchased) are basically forever.
Burned M-Disc, the real one, is also eons.
You might be confusing LaserDisc which had a sealing and corrosion problem. DVD and CD do not have that problem. 25-35 year old DVD or CD here continue to play just fine.
dvd players yea, they break down fast because its cheaply made by china, and most dont have blu ray players, you either have a laptop that can play it, or your own desktop you can download something to play blu ray.
I keep getting asked why i keep buying dvds and blurays.
I point at this shit, and at sony taking peoples owned media away without recourse or compensation as to why. They cant take my physical media.
I dropped all my streaming subscriptions the moment one of them put ads on a pair plan… I then spent what would have been a year of subscription fees on my current home server to replace all of them. It’s been about 3 years and I still love it.
I’ve since dropped all internet subscriptions in favor of self hosted alternatives.
streaming was always going towards to Ads every tier eventually.
Me, who has never paid a dime to a subscription service: 🥸🫵
Piracy, my girl. Piracy.
Yeah, it continues to provide the best experience. DVDs make you view unskippable fbi warnings not to steal from poor downtrodden corporations
People asked why I never gor rid of DVDs. Well here ya go
my mom is the only one that watches dvd/blu ray ,alot of them tend to international asian movies, which are hard to come by, and libraries will require you pay for the whole cost if you lose the dvd players. the players do break down, and she refuses to use the laptop that can play blu ray.
Personally, I just go without media nowadays. If Big Media is so obsessed with making their works unavailable to all but a few select people, then so be it - until people realize that they don’t need the circus to survive, the producers will keep inflating the prices until infinity
I’m going to continue consuming art, if official avenues of accessing it provide a terrible experience then it’s trivial to use other ones.
I dream of the circus from when I was a child. Now I’m just too depressed to to get out of bed to worry about going to it.
There’s also the option of a local digital library that doesn’t have ads or take up huge amounts of physical space.
Honestly how I sleep knowing I can type some variation of “movie online free” and stream whatever I want with a robust adblocker and vpn
I thrifted so many Blurays only to find out I can easily stream shit for free. But I like shiny things.
Also how I sleep knowing I have 85% of my library digitized as a (single point lmao) backup and waiting for memory prices to drop so I can get around to the rest…
Well, I never got to digitize my vhs tapes but oh well.
I was dumbfounded when I saw my wife sitting through a 1mn30s unskippable ad on whathisname (some streaming service) in the middle of her korean drama. I asked “don’t you pay for this”. She told me “my sister does”. I went and grabbed the rest of the episodes for her on extratorrent. Unbelievable
And that’s the problem. You’re home. This is your home. And you’re letting some corporation invade it and tell you what to watch while supposedly off work. On your TV. In your home.
Fuck that.
And paying for the privilege.
At this point it’s easier and faster for me to search up something in seerr, download and process it, and add it to jellyfin…than it is for me to even figure out what streaming service I could watch it on.
For a brief period…Netflix and Hulu were reigning supreme. They both had a great library of streaming titles. Netflix had no ads. Hulu only had ads on the free plan.
Meanwhile, downloading torrents meant crossing the tracks to the other side of the internet…not the bad side of the internet…just the side that you roll up your windows and lock your doors when you drive through, you know?
GabeN was right, it’s a service issue. I’m not getting a Switch 2 because of the way Nintendo handled digital licenses across multiple consoles. It continues to piss me off.
I’m enjoying the hell out of the OOT remake tho.
i need to find better torrent sites - i am still raw dogging pirate bay. (i mean vpn and in a docker container yadda yadda but damn those popups)
You should probably think about private torrent sites, which is a whole subject into itself, since you need to find ones that allow public sign-ups, and then build reputation to get into better ones. There’s too much to get into, but spend some time familiarizing yourself with what’s out there:
https://hdvinnie.github.io/Private-Trackers-Spreadsheet/
Until then: https://fmhy.net/
Edit: From FMHY, here is a guide: https://clarasguide.valeena.workers.dev/Guides/private-trackers/#private-trackers-general
thanks!
Torrent quest is my go to. Definitely use a vpn and all that
I’ll just say, apart from this site (any public tracker always use a VPN), for private trackers: be careful about using a VPN for signups and only read the rules first before turning it on. Many trackers have specific rules about VPN use.
thanks!
If you’re in the US, go to your local library and ask if they have a “Friends of The Library.” It’s where most US libraries sell their used media, including DVDs. I have about a thousand DVDs, they cost maybe $2,000, and the money went to the library.
- Tubi has lots of content with about the same amount of ads as Netflix.
- Through your library, you have a certain amount of either per month, or first come-first serve content through Hoopla or Kanopy
- Pirate
Tubi has lots of content with about the same amount of ads as Netflix.
Tubi has no ads, if you use uBlock Origin with Firefox.
If you’re anywhere, go to this neat website called Pirate Bay, and they have almost every movie ever, completely for free – no ads, and it’s yours as long as you want to keep it.
If you want to be safe, also sign up for a VPN, so your ISP doesn’t snoop on you downloading things (looking at you, Comcast). But a decent VPN is like $5-10 per year.
arnt those incidents usually by torrents that the companies that own the movies track. that was way back when , my bro did that he got notified by comcast several occasions.
I’m a stream pirate, since all I’ve *only ever heard is to never download anything. Isn’t there tons of risk with downloading content?
What others have said is valid as well, but joining a good private tracker means content is moderated so risc is very low.
VPN is only needed if you live somewhere where either ISPs or some organization sends letters.
There is also the Arr suite that basically allows you to build your own streaming service.
I haven’t used a live antivirus in more that a decade, by avoiding just raw dogging the open web I’ve never had a problem.
The actual situation is that the people who benefit from you continuing to pay for overpriced content you don’t own on the internet ALSO pay bots to flood your world with overblown warnings about the dangers.
The risk tends to be hugely overblown.
1: Use a VPN so your ISP can’t tattle on you for downloading things.
2: Virus scan stuff you download before opening/running it.
3: Keep good backups (you should be doing this anyway) so you can restore from backup if some kind of virus/malware manages to evade your virus scan.
Do those three things, and the risk of downloading pirated shit will be incredibly low. (And streaming isn’t zero-risk, either. The streaming apps or the streaming files themselves could theoretically be compromised, after all.)
There’s mild risk in torrenting only because the upload side of torrenting is “sharing”.
Practically speaking, if you aren’t financially profiting off piracy (like the guy you pay for your stream access), you are vanishingly unlikely to see any consequences for media piracy. And the methods to make you significantly safer are not a big leap.
But streaming is sick. The difference between deciding you want something and then acquiring it is very different from an IPTV subscription where there’s just like 40,000 channels of shit streaming RIGHT NOW.
proton is free
edit: the free tier doesn’t give them much anyway so you can still complain about their CEO
I thought the free tier didn’t support port forwarding. Isn’t that necessary for bittorrent?
It helps a lot, but only one peer in each connections needs that active.
DVDs had unskippable ads and trailers. You had to watch them every time you put in the DVD. Some players let you skip to the title menu, but not all.
Yeah, DVDs suck. Unskippable ads, piracy warnings (on a product you didn’t pirate) and standard definition. Piracy was the better user experience even back then.
And if you were able to skip them, God forbid you lost your remote control, and your DVD player didn’t have a reasonable amount of buttons on the front of it
Oh god yes, a minute long FBI warning screen!
