He’s a city boy though, would he survive living in Carleton Place? Also, the conservative candidate there only won by 5 percentage points. There’s probably a risk that if he ran there he’d lose again. Same name as his riding, but definitely no longer just suburban.

Sure, phrase it that way if you want. But, the point is, he did something to convince people he was anti-Trump and standing up for Canadians and it worked. Poilievre didn’t do that and lost.

So, now what for Poilievre?

Maybe the knives come out and he’s forced out as Conservative leader. I mean, he had a 20 percentage point lead over the Liberals and lost it. That has to piss them off. All he needed to do is do what Doug Ford did and stand up for Canada and against Trump.

But, if he doesn’t step down, where does he get someone to step down so he can run in a by-election? If he wants to stay near Ottawa, he’ll really have to move somewhere rural. He doesn’t strike me as the kind of guy who actually likes rural people or rural life very much. Or, he could move to Alberta. Lots of safe Conservative ridings in Alberta, some are even in urban areas. But, will they want a guy who is the very model of a carpet-bagger? A politician who has never had a job outside of politics, not just from “Ottawa” meaning the federal government, but who has literally lived in Ottawa(ish) for years?

I hope they ditch him. I’m sure the conservative party could do a lot worse, but there’s also a chance they could find a leader who has actually done something with their lives outside politics, and who has their own ideas, not just reheated culture war crap from Canada’s Shorts and just shouting down anything the Liberals suggest.

No, awesome job!

That’s why I carefully worded it “canada-wide parties”. If it were just big parties by vote, you’d definitely be right. In fact, Bloc is the only big party that came through the last few months with their leader intact.

They’re not an “official party”, but they still got 6% of the vote. But, because of FPTP they only got 2% of the seats. Bloc Quebecois got 6.4% of the vote and 6.7% of the seats. There are still a lot of people out there who would want to vote NDP, but who voted Liberal to achieve “anybody but Conservative”. The plan worked, but I think they’d like some electoral reform.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn4jd39g8y1o

I would love to see it be their #1 demand. If they did it, it would probably mean you’d never see another Liberal majority, but I think there’s a good chance that you’d see more left-leaning people elected. It goes against the interests of the Liberal party, but it might be in the interests of many of the things Liberals say they care about.

If it did pass, it would make voting “anybody but Conservative” much easier, which might really hurt the cons, which might cause them to split. That would be good too. Right now the conservatives are a bad alliance of small-government types who want to cut taxes and cut spending, and big-government types who want the government to go after anything they see as “woke” or “DEI”. It would be much healthier if those two could be split from each-other.

On Jan 1st, the 3 major canada-wide parties were:

• Liberal, headed by Justin Trudeau out of Papineau
• Conservative headed by Pierre Poilievre out of Carleton
• NDP headed by Jagmeet Singh out of Burnaby South

On May 1st the 3 major parties will be:

• Liberal, headed by Mark Carney out of Nepean
• Conservative headed by Pierre Poilievre(?) out of ?
• NDP headed by ? out of ?

As a Lemmy user, you’re probably aware of Mastodon. And, last I heard, “Truth Social” is just running a hacked-up version of Mastodon, but without the federation. So, they really could be called “toots”…

You got to call it, nice! I definitely wouldn’t have made it to 4:50 AM, so sleeping was a good plan for me.

Nice job, dude.

With a name like that he’d have to be.

3:00 AM EST 253/266 polls reporting (95%)

Poilievre trails by 2579 votes.

Oh well, I’m tapping out. Damn. I hoped it would be official before I went to sleep, but the final few polls are just trickling in. But, I’m going to bed happy, so there’s that.

2:50 AM EST 251/266 polls reporting (94%)

Poilievre trails by 2193 votes.

Yeah, back up above 50%. Any remaining polls would have to be massively out of whack with what we’ve seen so far to change anything.

2:40 AM EST 249/266 polls reporting (94%)

Poilievre trails by 2501 votes.

I’d love that. I don’t like a lot of the laws the Liberals have passed, especially the misguided way they tried to tax Facebook and Google to promote Canadian news. It would be great if there were a sane alternative party that actually had ideas for how to do things differently. The current conservatives are focused on culture war BS, lowering taxes while handing more money to corporations, and if Harper’s reign was any guide, muzzling scientists and giving away rights Canadians enjoy.

2:30 AM EST 247/266 polls reporting (93%)

Poilievre trails by 1802 votes.

2:20 AM EST 242/266 polls reporting (91%)

See if you can provoke Trump into “Truthing” about making Australia the 52nd state. It did wonders for the left-leaning Liberals in Canada. Your Liberals are right-wing, but they’re slɐɹǝqᴉ˥ so I don’t know if that makes things work the opposite way or not.