• DomeGuy@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    Fetterman, Manchin, and Sinema, bad as they are and were, were still the better choice compared to their general election opponents.

    An occasional collaborator sucks,. but is less-bad than either an unrepentant facist or an aligned “moderate” like Collins.

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      15 hours ago

      I feel like people forget that the alternative to Fetterman was Dr Oz.

      Swapping Fetterman for Oz would have given the GOP majorities in both House and Senate, put Mitch McConnell back as Senate President, and generally been an objectively worse outcome.

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      12 hours ago

      People also fail to take account of Fetterman’s stroke, which clearly affected his allegiances.

      He was known before it as a homespun man of the people.

      Brain damage causes conservatism.

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      14 hours ago

      Exactly this. I don’t disagree with wanting to cut the weakest members of the team to find someone better, but that’s for the primaries.

      Looking at real numbers, Fetterman is better than Manchin or Sinema. Fetterman breaks with party lines around 25% of the time while Sinema was at 33% and Manchin was almost 40%. That makes him around twice as good as Manchin.

      Idealogically, he also seems to stack up more favorably than both Manchin and Sinema, and a few other well know congressfolk that never get brought up in these conversations. Fetterman, like Manchin and Sinema, just seems to draw more attention to himself when he does it.

      Do I dislike Fetterman and want him gone and replaced by someone better? Heck yeah! But the record shows he’s about 75% better than having Dr Oz as my senator would have been. Ignoring the times he did do what he was sent to do is very misleading to people that don’t take the time to look at actual data, which is going to be nearly everyone. Conor Lamb’s ideology score doesn’t look any better, so what we got is still about the best we had a chance to get.

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      13 hours ago

      This is such a good point I hate to see it buried. The GOP in those areas would vote in satan2 if he had a red hat and said nice things about them.