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The scientific urge to eat ancient human corpses can not be stopped.
this is a free country!
1800 br*tish “people” didn’t have that many scientists
That’s just what “science” is in their culture.
Mummy? More like yummy
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they also ate the ground up skulls of Irish people
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The Yummy Returns
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Lmao
This is just an extension of Egyptomania when wealthy British/Americans were eating mummies.
How?
I guess it’s a bit less weird since it’s from the mummy’s gut. But still kind of a weird fetishism of consuming stuff from a mummy. Kind of disrespectful, kinda not, but weird in general.
“No reason to do this” yea there was, one of the scientists was obviously a cook and this is the shit cooks do
I don’t understand the reaction people are having to this, this is like pretty fucking cool. And almost entirely disconnected from colonizers historically eating mummys.
You don’t understand why people think it’s weird to eat food from the entrails of human corpses?
I know why people think it’s weird but it’s objectively value neutral
Don’t worry you eat people’s poop all day every day in small quantities
If someone digs me up and starts eating my stomach contents after I die I’ll haunt them for eternity
Hell yeah, ghosts.
One step removed from actual cannibalism (of which there is also a relatively recent history in regards to mummies).
Was going to say - can anglos NOT eat mummies for five fucking seconds.
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That’d pretty much be the circle of life artificially accelerated out of necessity, I wouldn’t have a problem with it. Here there is no necessity. Studying the type of yeast that is found, sure, but immediately trying to make a product out of it? Of which the only worth will consist in the peculiarity of its conception? That’s like a parody of the capitalist logic of trying to exploit anything and anyone in any way possible! Tho I don’t know whether or not they intend to sell the bread, I did see they intend to make Ötzi beer next ! Idk, that just seems somewhat disrespectful to me.
I wouldn’t assume it to be intended to sell. Part of the yeast being out of circulation for so long means it’s different from any yeasts in the world right now, by nature of not being subject to background mutation and evolving alongside us.
How well does it consume modern sugars compared to modern yeast strains? How does it handle the process of baking sourdough as we know it?
Multiple bits of useful information to be gleaned. How do it’s genotypical differences from modern strains actually impact it’s physical reality? Useful correlation to modern yeast as one maps it’s genome. If it doesn’t react the same way, can you alter the process to make something that still works? If not, did ancient bread just kinda suck? If so, did ancient people have that different process? Regardless of yes or no, then we might get a better lens through which to analyze our current understandings.
If it did have a different set of requirements for baking, one can suspect those same genetic variations may serve as levers by which evolution might impact modern strains. Given our rapidly changing climate, understanding how alterations to yeasts genome impact it is again, potentially very useful even if only as a reference.
Beyond what we can glean about it this particular strain, why not? Worst case, taste tester dies, as they feared recreated mammoth meat might trigger an allergic reaction to something humanity haven’t been exposed to recently. I doubt they did this for free with random volunteers signing wavers. I’d suspect it was a very informed research member trying it after proposing the idea.
Not sure if you know many scientists. This isn’t even top 10 on the “of course you tried that” list. Being passionate about learning new things and trying new things with what you’ve just learned is super common. Know how many Conservation and Wildlife folk I know have tried the local fauna as roadkill? Right of passage for local branch of the State Conservation team. BBQ raccoon isn’t half bad. How many in Plant Science grow illegal or poisonous flora because “just look at this cute lil guy” How many engineers I know will use home projects based on their skill set to do something wildly overkill because “I bet that’d work and I already have the laser”
I doubt it’s being turned into a product per se. This is just a piece of experimental archaeology. Knowing what ancient bread may have tasted like does give us some kind of insight into the deep past (although I’m skeptical of just how much). Not… Entirely sure how I feel about it, personally.
While I can see how the similarity to wealthy Europeans eating bits of Egyptian mummies makes people uncomfortable, it’s a pretty superficial similarity. They didn’t just scoop bits of Ötzi out and use it to leaven bread, there’s a whole microbiome on Ötzi that would make that unsafe. They cultured specific yeasts, and grew fresh samples. Ötzi’s still in the general area where he lived, he was found in the alps and his remains are in Italy. His discovery and recovery were to my knowledge celebrated at the time, including in his homeland, and have continued to be celebrated. His remains weren’t stolen.
This is very, very different from stealing Egyptian mummies from a colonised Egypt, without the consent of the Egyptian people, shipping them halfway around the world, and grinding them up to eat, because you guess that the remains of the mystical, exotic people probably have magic properties.
those astronauts can consent to having their remains used? like the difference between harvesting a dead person for organs and a person being a donor.
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When I die I want my body buried in a bean hole to cook alongside beans and other ingredients.
Whether or not anyone chooses to eat the beans afterwards is entirely up to them.
okay
okay
This is gonna be how vampires come back
Yeast Vampires
The mark of the yeast
resisting the urge to start a struggle session
Every day, comrade
Is it just me or is this the stupidest struggle session on this website. I genuinely can’t tell if you all think this is some grave unethical act or not.
It’s not a struggle sesh until you hit
, before that it’s just a sparkling disagreementIt’s not a struggle session if it doesn’t come from the Strugglenheim region of Germany
I don’t think there’s a struggle session
Well I think there is
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Mods unremove this comment so i cam get amgry at it
Personally I think it’s kinda neat to try and recreate food that he might’ve eaten 5k+ years ago but I also like digging around in the dirt for old stuff and trying to figure out how people lived
That’s just being an archaeologist
That is what I’m trying to do lol
I haven’t worked with any archaeologists, but I have worked with a few geologists, and all of them would bring in their favorite rocks and lick them every once and a while.
You can lick test stuff in archaeology as a quick and dirty way to identify bone vs stone but it’s definitely not recommended nowadays, geologists get all the rock licking fun
If you can feel the grains in your mouth, it’s silt. If you can’t, it’s clay.
We plundered a human burial site and violated the sacred traditions of an ancient culture so that we could make yummy treats out of the remains.
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Oh, well I guess that guy 8000 years ago really missed out on a golden opportunity for yummy treats. Thank goodness someone more civilized came along. Finders keepers!
that guy 8000 years ago was eating that bread when it was fresh
He dissed Grok one time too many
Didn’t he die crossing a glacier tho?
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I’m more responding to the concept of violating human remains to produce something for human consumption than this specific case which I am unfamiliar with.
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Interesting, I somehow didn’t realize they were still poking around Ötzi’s remains. Thanks for the info!
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you’ve heard of vaginal yeast culture bread, now there’s ancient mummy yeast culture bread
Soon to be ancient mummy yeast beer!
Mummy Genuine Draft
Was there anything special about the yeast or is it just the masculine urge to desecrate corpses?
Combined with the feminine urge to make sourdough, researcher is clearly non binary
More of a historical foray to understand how beer and bread may have tasted with local varieties of yeast, hard to say how true it is to form the yeast probably changed a lot in the mummy over the years
Modern yeast is vastly superior. This beer tastes like vinagre, most people don’t like that, wich is why yeast has been selectively breed for millennia, to not taste like that. Also why we add hops or juniper berries to beer.
Nice feet pics
