I think that anyone comparing any sizable American political movement of the current day to fascism is either wildly incorrect about what fascism is, or is intentionally trying to demonize their opponents. And I’m not interested in following the link to whatever clickfarm you linked to find out which.
Not trying to demonize. I think todays conservatives meet the criteria for fascism.
Fascism is generally defined as a political movement that embraces far-right nationalism and the forceful suppression of any opposition, all overseen by an authoritarian government. Fascists strongly oppose Marxism, liberalism and democracy, and believe the state takes precedence over individual interests. They favor centralized rule, often a single party or leader, and embrace the idea of a national rebirth, a new greatness for their country. Economic self-sufficiency is prized, often through state-controlled companies. Youth, masculinity and strength are highly fetishized.
I can help you understand that you’re using a dishonest definition of fascism that was created for the specific purpose of demonizing political opponents and is no better than letting the late senator Mccarthy define socialism
So militant nationalism that can’t be criticized. The population would be encouraged to shout slogans, fly flags and recognize the in-group with salutes, hats and gestures?
For those wondering what ideology the U.S. Presidents fall into here you go. When you strip away the political party you can see the trends in U.S. History. This is also U.S. Presidents’ ranked as well.
I’d be interested if you did put some thought into it. I genuinely want to know what you think 🤔
I think that anyone comparing any sizable American political movement of the current day to fascism is either wildly incorrect about what fascism is, or is intentionally trying to demonize their opponents. And I’m not interested in following the link to whatever clickfarm you linked to find out which.
Not trying to demonize. I think todays conservatives meet the criteria for fascism.
Fascism is generally defined as a political movement that embraces far-right nationalism and the forceful suppression of any opposition, all overseen by an authoritarian government. Fascists strongly oppose Marxism, liberalism and democracy, and believe the state takes precedence over individual interests. They favor centralized rule, often a single party or leader, and embrace the idea of a national rebirth, a new greatness for their country. Economic self-sufficiency is prized, often through state-controlled companies. Youth, masculinity and strength are highly fetishized.
Can you help me understand how that’s not MAGA?
I can help you understand that you’re using a dishonest definition of fascism that was created for the specific purpose of demonizing political opponents and is no better than letting the late senator Mccarthy define socialism
What defines fascism to you? Stalin? Black Lives Matter?
“Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state”.
So militant nationalism that can’t be criticized. The population would be encouraged to shout slogans, fly flags and recognize the in-group with salutes, hats and gestures?
Wrong again, though I suspect you aren’t actually trying for a good faith discussion
That would bother you, right? Because if your group does its salute you could be arrested.
Umberto Eco defined fascism (well, ur-fascism - or the warning signs of fascism-on-the-rise) across a detailed 14 point list of traits.
The GOP checks all 14.
They are fascist because the literally meet all the criteria & traits of fascism.
For those wondering what ideology the U.S. Presidents fall into here you go. When you strip away the political party you can see the trends in U.S. History. This is also U.S. Presidents’ ranked as well.