The first Jurassic Park movie is all time one of the greatest films ever made with the special effects still holding up to this day. The 2nd film was still very enjoyable in my opinion but it was just a cookie cutter sequel not bad, not good. The 3rd film wasn’t great at all. But compared to the rest of the series the 3rd film is basically the godfather.

As another personal pick the 1st blade movie is a hood classic good. The other 2 not so much.

  • tiramichu@sh.itjust.works
    25·
    4 个月前

    The Matrix.

    Not sure how that isn’t mentioned yet!

    First movie was a masterpiece that became a classic, the rest were completely unnecessary.

    When my brother showed The Matrix to his kid, she asked “Is there another one?” and he said “No.”

    • Jesus_666@lemmy.worldEnglish
      81·
      4 个月前

      I can respect the fourth one. Sure, it was a terrible movie but it feels like a deliberate piss take on the idea of reviving the franchise. And I can respect that.

      • yyprum@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        41·
        4 个月前

        I’m glad I’m not the only one thinking that. It was so bad, so so bad… But yeah I couldn’t help but feel the wachowski sister that did it (if I’m not wrong the other one didn’t participate) just dit it to spite the studio for trying to make a moneygrab movie.

        Having said that, despite the 2nd and 3rd movies not being great by any means compared to the first one, I do still enjoy them, like a guilty pleasure kinda thing.

        • WhoIsTheDrizzle@lemmy.world
          1·
          4 个月前

          The 2nd and 3rd ones are still fun, action-packed movies with ground-breaking effects. The Matrix set an impossibly high bar and it was not originally planned to be a sequel, let alone a trilogy. They also whipped them together much faster, so in that context, I think they did a great job.

        • Orygin@sh.itjust.works
          21·
          4 个月前

          IIRC in the first half hour they explicitly shit talk the execs wanting a sequel so it’s quite obvious it’s a middle finger to Warner bros.

        • caseyweederman@lemmy.ca
          1·
          4 个月前

          Huh. Douglas Adams did something similar when his publisher kept pressuring him to make another Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy book.
          “STOP MAKING ME WRITE THESE”

    • DisgruntledGorillaGang@reddthat.com
      41·
      4 个月前

      I saw the original Matrix like once and never watched the sequels, so I sat down and watched them all recently. The hate for the sequels is way overblown. Apart from the bad CGI in the second, I thought they were great sequels that took the story in interesting directions.

      • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        3·
        4 个月前

        The problem I have with the Matrix sequels…1. they’re too far up their own ass. The original was a little up its own ass but it was up the part of its own ass that mattered for the story it was telling. Reloaded and Revelations are up their whole ass. “Love is a word.” 🙄 2. The original is a very straightforward hero’s journey in which deciding to answer the call is the ultimate key to the hero’s power. The sequels are about fate and inevitability and how basically no decision can ever matter. So we’re sorry to have bothered you.

      • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip
        1·
        4 个月前

        I think some of the fights just started feeling extra stupid. In particular I’m thinking of the multiple smiths in the park and the final one with him in the rain.

        • DisgruntledGorillaGang@reddthat.com
          1·
          4 个月前

          Yeah, the multiple smith fight is the most egregious. Trim that down and take out the most offensive CGI and I feel like Reloaded would have been vastly improved.

    • osanna@lemmy.vgEnglish
      0·
      4 个月前

      don’t even get me started on resurections. Holy shit. It is bullshit that that movie is now canon :/

      • WhoIsTheDrizzle@lemmy.world
        1·
        4 个月前

        I’m not 100%, but I’m pretty sure Lana undertook it to destroy the series and get the movie studio to stop asking for sequels. It’s like the central theme of the movie.

  • hobata@lemmy.ml
    13·
    4 个月前

    Is there any what gets better? There are good sequels, but once it becomes movie franchise, it all turns to shit. Sometimes faster, sometimes slower.

      • deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz
        7·
        4 个月前

        Alien and Aliens. But only because Aliens was deliberately a different genre: so it’s a bit of a stretch.

      • Bonifratz@piefed.zipEnglish
        5·
        4 个月前

        Terminator 2 was better.

        I see this view everywhere all the time, but personally I strongly disagree. Terminator 2 is good no doubt, but the original had a sense of dread and urgency literally from start to finish that is unmatched in any of the sequels, in my opinion.

        • Klear@quokk.au
          English
          1·
          4 个月前

          Terminator 2 is the perfect sequel - expands on the original and shakes things up while maintaining the general feel. I don’t think it would be as highly praised if it wasn’t a followup on the first movie. It would still be a great movie in a vacuum, though, don’t get me wrong.

          As such, it’s pretty hard to compare the movies, it will always come down to personal taste.

      • hopesdead@startrek.website
        2·
        4 个月前

        I’m sure there are people who will argue that Back to the Future Part II was the worst of the trilogy. Part III might be the best.

      • WanderWisley@lemmy.worldOP
        1·
        4 个月前

        Definitely terminator 2. As well as the original Star Wars trilogy and back to the future trilogy are the few that I consider good all the way through.

      • anomnom@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        1·
        4 个月前

        Indiana Jones got better and better for the first 3. Then dumb.

        If the Cornetto trilogy counts I think hot fuzz was the peak.

      • Jarix@lemmy.world
        23·
        4 个月前

        It being filmed together is it being a 6+ hour movie in 3 chapters. I think it’s a single project not successive films. Just how I frame it, I concede to technicalities if you must

        • Klear@quokk.au
          English
          2·
          4 个月前

          I watched them back to back once and can confirm. They work perfectly as a single long movie.

    • Fushuan [he/him]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      3·
      4 个月前

      Spiderman 2 was arguably better than Spiderman 1. 3 was worse tho.

      And being extremely malicious, I like two towers and return of the king more than the fellowship of the ring :)

    • Klear@quokk.au
      English
      2·
      4 个月前

      Evil Dead, at least for me. I enjoyed the first movies but absolutely love Army of Darkness.

      The James Bond franchise gets better over time arguably. It has ups and downs, but I definitely wouldn’t say it’s downward trend overall.

      Mad Max.

    • driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br
      2·
      4 个月前

      Not a fan of the Scream movies, but just saw a video of a guy talking about how each one gets better than the last one mainly because they are self aware of being sequels and use that to enrich the narrative

    • dantheclamman@lemmy.world
      2·
      4 个月前

      Franchises where the second film is more broadly acclaimed than the first: Star Wars, The Godfather, The Dark Knight, arguably Alien, Terminator, Star Trek, Paddington, Rocky, James Bond, The Pink Panther, Mad Max. Ones where the third film is the most acclaimed: arguably Indiana Jones, maybe Toy Story, LOTR (kind of all a merged movie so doesn’t count), The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, Star Wars prequels

      • OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        0·
        4 个月前

        Bronson, Moore and Connery are my Bond trifecta.

        I lost interest after Brosnan and haven’t seen another Bond film since Die Another Day in 2002. I’m cool with it.

    • kingthrillgore@lemmy.ml
      11·
      4 个月前

      Tron, if you care about the music. Going from peak (Wendy Carlos) to peak (Daft Punk) to peak (Nine Inch Nails) even if the movies are bad.

    • Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      01·
      4 个月前

      So long as you can put yourself in the headspace, the fast and furious movies do get better when you realize that every movie is the exact same film (besides Tokyo drift anyway), but with higher stakes than the last one, to kind of absurd levels - starts with street racing, ends up in space, through so many movies.

      But that’s kind of a meta analysis based on what they are, not the actual quality, none of them are amazing, but fine if you can turn your brain off for a bit

    • oppy1984@lemdro.idEnglish
      2·
      4 个月前

      Glad I’m not the only one who feels that way.

      The first one was a masterpiece, two was good, but 3 & 4 just felt like they were pushing to hard to release quickly and had no real sole. The first John Wick I can rewatch over and over and enjoy every viewing. The rest… once was enough.

    • Omega@lemmy.world
      2·
      4 个月前

      I thought John Wick maintained the same level through all the sequels.

      Also, you’re telling me that Thor (1) is better than Infinity War?

  • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
    9·
    4 个月前

    It would be far more interesting to ask, what movie franchise DOESN’T get worse with each new film.

    • thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works
      4·
      4 个月前

      Aliens, Terminator 2, The Dark Knight are the first three that come to mind - but yes, in general sequels tend to be inferior.

        • detren@sh.itjust.works
          1·
          4 个月前

          If you go by release date then that can’t be true considering the prequels (even though I love them). TFA was also so bland compared to the rest. The Last Jedi was the only decent one since the original trilogy imo.

          But oh my god rise of skywalker is so fucking bad.

          • BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world
            1·
            4 个月前

            rise of skywalker was so terrible they should have let rian johnson just do his thing again, even if people hated it like TLJ at least it would have had some thought put into it

        • osanna@lemmy.vgEnglish
          0·
          4 个月前

          i liked TFA. It was a decent flick. But then they just got so. much. worse.

            • Alaknár@sopuli.xyz
              01·
              4 个月前

              TLJ would’ve been a great third film in a trilogy. It absolutely sucks balls as the second film. It killed practically all the story lines from the first, leaving basically nothing for the third, including the main bad guy. Hux would’ve never been a good “ultimate enemy”, and if Kylo Ren became one, it would completely overturn everything the previous eight films worked on.

          • Alaknár@sopuli.xyzEnglish
            01·
            4 个月前

            TFA would’ve been a great third film in a trilogy. It absolutely sucks balls as the second film. It killed practically all the story lines from the first, leaving basically nothing for the third, including the main bad guy. Hux would’ve never been a good “ultimate enemy”, and if Kylo Ren became one, it would completely overturn everything the previous eight films worked on.

    • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      4 个月前

      Alien at least had the second film better than the first, which was a hell of an accomplishment since the first film was great. Fortunately they never even made any movies after the second one.

      • Alaknár@sopuli.xyz
        11·
        4 个月前

        Come on, now. The third was OK, the fourth was enjoyable, and Romulus was phenomenal. It was basically “let’s take the best bits from Alien and Aliens and stick them together” and they did it brilliantly.

        • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.worldEnglish
          0·
          4 个月前

          C’mon, killing off Newt and Hicks at the start of the third was unconscionable. It’s in the same category as “somehow, Palpatine returned”.

          • Alaknár@sopuli.xyz
            01·
            4 个月前

            “Somehow Palpatine returned” is lazy writing forced on them due to Snoke dying in the previous film.

            Hicks and Newt dying is perfectly reasonable in the world the action takes place in.

    • ZeroHora@lemmy.mlEnglish
      2·
      4 个月前

      John Wick? They are not like the best movies in the world but they do get better.

  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
    8·
    4 个月前

    JP went from a Dinosaur Movie to a very generic monster movie with the exact same plot every time.

    Greedy evildoer wants SuperDino for nefarious purposes and must be defeated. Repeat.

  • CerebralHawks@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    8·
    4 个月前

    Anime has entered the chat.

    Tokyo Ghoul. Amazing first season. Body horror, depression, and zombie stuff all rolled into one. Masterpiece. Season 2 came out ahead of the rest of the books and it sucked. Seasons 3 and 4 adapted the second book series, but they speed ran it and only hit highlights and it was confusing AF.

    Promised Neverland. Also amazing first season. Thriller with children trying to escape an orphanage that has a dark secret (revealed in first episode). They had like 5-7 seasons’ worth of content and started to do a second season, but the funding (and creativity!) ran out so they speed ran the rest of the manga, and it was so bad, the directors had their names taken off the billing.

    “Second season when?” has become a trope due to so many with excellent first seasons followed by terrible ones. Attack on Titan almost counts. First season was awesome, we called it Japan’s answer to The Walking Dead when TWD was decent. Second season took 4 years and sucked, but season 3 more than made up for it. Season 4, “the final season,” “the final season part 2,” “the final season for realz this time”, “the final season trust us we can see the finish line” and “the final chapters” sucked, though.

    • bluesheep@sh.itjust.works
      2·
      4 个月前

      Is AoT actually finished and released at this point? I stopped watching after the final season part 1 because I felt so betrayed and said to myself I’d only ever watch it again when I can actually finish the storyline

    • DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      01·
      4 个月前

      Psycho Pass

      Season 1 is one of my favorites sci-fi crime cyberpunks shows …and it just got worse after that…

      I only own S1 Blu-ray and forget the other seasons existed.

    • dfyx@lemmy.helios42.deEnglish
      11·
      4 个月前
      • The Lord of the Rings was very consistent. Many people think that Return of the King is the best one.
      • Knives Out had a rather disappointing second part but the third one is amazing.

      Yeah, that’s all I can think of right now.

      • psycotica0@lemmy.ca
        9·
        4 个月前

        Lord of the Rings barely counts, because not only were all three books out and classics before the movies started (obviously), but the three movies were basically worked on at the same time. It’s nuts, but somehow they managed to do it.

        So it’s not like they released the first, got crazy hype, and then phoned everyone up and said “electric Boogaloo, you in?”. They’d already shot most of the second and third by the time the first came out, as I recall.

        Also I really liked Glass Onion 😛

      • Omega@lemmy.world
        4·
        4 个月前

        Knives Out 2 is by far my favorite and I love all three. I’ve only laughed that hard at a movie a handful of times.

        • dfyx@lemmy.helios42.deEnglish
          51·
          4 个月前

          My main criticism about Glass Onion is that the twist only works because Blanc knows something from the start that the audience can’t really figure out on their own. I prefer detective stories where the main character has the same opportunities to gather information as I have and if I pay close enough attention, I can figure out most of what happened before the big reveal.

          But I’m glad that you liked it. Shows that the series caters to different tastes.

        • dfyx@lemmy.helios42.deEnglish
          21·
          4 个月前

          At least to me and my friends who watched it with me. See my other reply for an explanation why. But of course, tastes differ and there seem to be quite a few people on here who liked it.

    • Englishgrinn@lemmy.caEnglish
      1·
      4 个月前

      I’m just thinking in big franchises, because I’m not a well-schooled film-nerd. But even I can think of a lot of examples of sequels better than the originals.

      It’s a matter of taste, but I think Rocky 2 is the strongest film in the franchise. I think it’s more commonly believed that Aliens is a stronger film than Alien. Evil Dead 2 is better than Evil Dead, but that might not count since its a soft reboot. Star Trek 2: Wrath of Khan is pretty much a classic example. Terminator 2 is a very different movie than Terminator 1, making comparison weird but it’s usually regarded as better. Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man 2 is arguably stronger than Spider-Man, though obviously 3 was a bit of a mess.

      Going to put this in a separate section. Admittedly, whether this should count is arguable. Still, If you count Marvel movies as direct sequels to others, it gets ridiculously easy: Thor: Ragnarok is so much better than all the other Thor movies its kind of nuts. Winter Soldier is stronger than First Avenger and Civil War might be better than both. Guardians of the Galaxy 2 is the strongest film in that franchise.

    • backalleycoyote@lemmy.today
      1·
      4 个月前

      Star Wars original trilogy. All three are fantastic but Empire and ROTJ are better both because of budget and having superior directors behind the camera. George has a great imagination but should not be allowed to be the one who brings his stories to life. I’d also offer that out of the Prequels, ROTS is far superior to I & II and is in roughly the same league as the OT. And then there’s Rogue One; oh it’s beautiful.

      • xspurnx@slrpnk.net
        1·
        4 个月前

        ROTJ is the weakest part of the OT. Better production and direction, sure, but so much else is lacking.

    • FatVegan@leminal.space
      1·
      4 个月前

      People talk about Taken like it’s a good movie. I saw it recently for the first time, and just the fact that they tried to make the protagonist scary and capable is just hilarious to me. Yeah okay let’s pretend he can run and fight, as a goof.

        • No1@aussie.zone
          1·
          4 个月前

          The fight scenes with Keanu kill it for me. Besides the complete absence of plot and characters.

          I can’t help but think of Steven Seagal fighting guys who are just flipping themselves.

      • Test_Tickles@lemmy.world
        1·
        4 个月前

        I don’t know what you are talking about… There was the Highlander movie, and then there was the Highlander tv show. That’s all there ever was.

  • Danitos@reddthat.com
    7·
    4 个月前

    Saw. The first one is a brilliant psychological horror movie. The rest drift more towards body horror, but each one gets worse and dumber than the previous one (except maybe Saw X, the last one)

    • 1hitsong@lemmy.ml
      1·
      4 个月前

      My wife and I saw the first Saw in theaters. The ending had everyone gasping. It was a wonderful popcorn flick.

      We later saw the 2nd movie in theaters. We HATED it. I thought it was one of the worst movies I would ever see.

      I later watched Saw 3 on a streaming service. I thought it was one of the worst movies I would ever see.

      I later watched Saw 4…

  • No_Money_Just_Change@feddit.orgDeutsch
    6·
    4 个月前

    Pirates of the carabian.
    The first was a masterpiece in comedy.
    The second and third were good but I would still rate them slightly worse each gen.
    I am indifferent to 4 and hate 5

    • fireweed@lemmy.world
      4·
      4 个月前

      I thought 3 was a deal better than 2. 2 was generic Hollywood schlock that dragged in the middle; 3 at least attempted some interesting things, and even bordered on artsy at times.

      1 was, of course, the best. Haven’t seen 4 and 5.

    • tiramichu@sh.itjust.works
      3·
      4 个月前

      The first movie was a complete package that told a story well, and where it ended was the right place to end it all.

      But of course, money.

      Really tarnished my feelings about the first movie and I don’t think I could even watch it the same way anymore.

    • pjwestin@lemmy.world
      1·
      4 个月前

      I actually thought 4 was better than 2 and 3. Not that 4 was very good, but I thought 2 and 3 suffered from an attempt to, “trilogize,” the series and make it a grand epic. It was clear by the end of the third movie that they didn’t know where they were going with all of the plot threads they’d set up like Calypso, the Brethren Court, the Jack/Elizabeth/Will love triangle they were hinting at…just way to many ideas and very little payoff. At least 4 told a coherent story in one movie, even if it wasn’t a very good story.

  • Zahille7@lemmy.world
    71·
    4 个月前

    Nah, Blade 2 still fucks.

    Blade Trinity is just as rough now as it was when it first released.

      • bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        4 个月前

        It should have ended at the -1th movie

        I joke. I ironically love those films because they are terrible.

        Nobody likes the tuna here, asshole!

        • InFerNo@lemmy.ml
          2·
          4 个月前

          The first movie was serious, but as they progress they lean in on the silliness. Going to space was the cherry on the cake.

  • Inucune@lemmy.world
    6·
    4 个月前

    Ghostbusters. Some late 80’s exec in tv and film was obsessed with putting babies in everything and the second movie got shanked in a dark alley by them.