A 13-year-old student was expelled from a Louisiana middle school after hitting a male classmate who she said created and shared a deepfake pornographic image of her, according to her family’s lawyers.
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At some point we’re going to either recognize that using someone’s likeness this way without consent is a form of violence, or we’re basically going to lose all rights over our image and likeness. Either everyone has deepfake porn made of them or no one does.
That question probably won’t be seriously tested until it happens to someone with enough money and power to matter, though.
I’d wallop the teachers, and the parents of that little shit for good measure.
That shit is stuck on the internet now. I’ll take assault charges against child porn defending pigs.
I mean rhe girl moved in with her dad in 2020 and hadn’t been to school since. I imagine she kind of fell through the cracks during covid as far as school goes. All of the adults in that house belong in super jail though.
I think we should loose our minds over this without knowing the full story.
If you disagree ill make a sora of you agreeing.
If this were my child, I would take her out for a burger and milkshake (or whatever she wanted) and buy her something nice. A toy, a game, something like that.
Cool stuff, but that doesn’t fix that. She needs a new school in a different place.
She also needs financial compensations. Ideally in the 10s of thousands. Let her have that money as well, fuck it.
Webre added that he does not expect to criminally charge the young girl.
“Due to the totality of the circumstances, we chose not to pursue charges on the female student,” he said.
What the fuck. Why is this is a question. Why would it even be possible to criminally charge the victim. Why are you acting like you’re doing her a favor by not “pursuing charges”. WHAT fucking charges would you be fucking pursuing.
I don’t expect commenters to know the answers to this. I just want to emphasize how American cops hate women so fucking much that when they have a 13-year-old female victim of a sex crime they ask themselves what crimes they can charge her with.
And men wonder why women don’t report.
Sue the fuck out of the kid that made the deepfake. I’m sure any good law firm could deliver some emotional distress, defamation, whatever. Maybe she’d get community service at 13 if charged, but creating a wreckage of the school district and the kid that did it would send a message. Worst thing is that the taxpayer would be on the hook to pay for any compensation, not the shitty people at the district choosing to punish her.
We won’t pursue charges but she will be expelled
Welcome to the US of fucking A
In what jurisdiction does having a non-violent crime committed against you grant you license to commit a violent crime?
A long, long time ago, someone told me that crimes are committed separately. (I don’t even remember the person who told me this.) The situation that was discussed in that conversation was that a burglar had entered a home illicitly, fallen due to some code violation, and hurt themself.
The homeowner was able to conduct a case against the invader, but the criminal was also able to sue for … Whatever you sue for when you get hurt in someone else’s house. Neither jury was allowed to know the details of the other’s case, or perhaps they were instructed to disregard their knowledge.
The point is, in one possible suit the person we would likely agree is the victim is legally the victim; and in the other they are legally the perpetrator. According to the law, the two are not relevant to each other.
… Is what I was told decades ago by this person I barely remember.
The name of the crime would be assault. Would you like a definition? ;)
100% agree she should not be charged as I believe it’s 100% justified here, but to say you don’t know what they would charge her with when it’s pretty clear… That said, it should be understood that when someone does something that deserves a slap or a punch or a kick, while the person might be guilty of the crime, the justification means you do not pursue it. Like the father who catches the guy messing with his kid and he kills the guy. Yes it’s Murder 2 but you don’t charge him if there’s a decent bone in your body. You help him get the body off his property so he can tend to his child.
I also agree the focus should be on the actual crime, the guy making CP of a minor. Even if he used technology to fake it. It’s still portraying a child; ergo, it’s CP. The focus should be on him being placed on a sex offender registry for however many years. But, it’s Louisiana so who knows. The girl would have no rights, especially if she has dark skin.
ETA: First part is meant to be funny, not argumentative. Apologies if it came across that way! Agree with you, was trying to be funny.
Technically it’s battery if she actually made physical contact. :p
Bullied kid who fights backs is the one to be punished. A tale as old as time
They really should’ve gotten help instead of, or at least before lashing out. And never respond to nonviolence with violence
Getting bullied like that is harder to recover from than being hit by someone.
aaaaaaand that’s a production of CP charge.
It’s fucking Louisiana. They’ll elect the little shit Governor.
That’s a conservative trait like throwing people out of windows is a Russian politician trait.
Remember folks, do not aim to get in fights, but if you must fight, make sure you finish it.
FLAWLESS VICTORY
FATALITY
Toasty!
My daughter would not be in trouble for this, regardless of the school’s reaction.
Be a hero. Murder your local pedophile.
It’s not murder when it self defense or defense of others.
I got suspended for defending myself against getting hit in the head with a chair when I was a kid. School policies are totally fucked. Guess they just wanted me to stand there and sustain massive head trauma? Assholes.
When I was in school, if someone hit you over the head with a chair and you didn’t fight back, you still got suspended because you were “involved” in a fight.
Because the fight itself is an inconvenience for the school. Also, they figure you probably asked for it at some point.
Ya many schools have taken a zero tolerance route which means you don’t really get any punishment expect for expulsion. Something like that should have been handled in a much different way.
I got a friday night detention for throwing one punch at a student who was attacking me. I threw that punch after descalation did not work, and as soon as I saw a teacher I signalled for help. My dad confronted the vice principle who was the one who gave me the punishment and my dad asked him what I should have done. The VP told my dad I did as I should have and as what was expected, but that the school has a zero tolerance policy so I still needed to be punished.
Yep. I have been suspended twice for fighting. In both cases the other person hit me first. The first time it happened I didn’t even realize somebody had thrown a punch and had no time to even defend myself. The second time I did defend myself, but it literally involved pushing the person away.
In both cases the school administration did not care and my parents went up to the school to make complaints.
It’s bullshit, but this is exactly the problem. Schools have zero tolerance policies to protect themselves rather than to protect students.
Yep, if you’re getting suspended no matter what you do, might as well go to town so that everyone else is to afraid to try again next time because of what happened to the last attacker.
Effectively, it’s an enticement to escalate violence rather than try and diffuse the situation once violence starts.
“They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That’s the Chicago Way.”
We’ve a great phrase for that here:
“May as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb”
(i.e. if you’re going to be hung it doesn’t matter if they call you a sheep or a lamb so press on)
“In for a penny, in for a pound.”
But yours is more on point. :)
I always understood that phrase as more like “no point in half measures if the consequences are the same”, because a lamb is a small sheep.
Yeah you could definitely take it that way. The first time I heard it I asked the lad what the hell it meant and that’s what he told me. Both fit in fairness.
Edit: upon reflection I like your interpretation more
And the classmate got a prestigious job in tech i assume?
Politics
He’s on his way to a cabinet position
They’re floating him for supreme court justice
He got charges pressed on him for the deepfake porn, so potentially he got a ‘bad-bad’ charge, as AfterPrisonShow puts it.
She needs a commendation, not an expulsion for god’s sake.
How is it acceptable anywhere for someone to be expelled for hitting someone else, in a scenario like this where the cause is completely understandable and justifiable? If anything, the kid making deepfake porn should be the one expelled because that kinda thing can be legitimately life-ruining for its target. The person being expelled had every reason, right, and justification to throw hands.
I’m probably sounding like Ailurus here, but this is screwed up.
Also, isn’t deepfake porn a crime in a lot of places even if it’s of adults, and not of kids like in this case, which CP is already hella illegal on its own?
Zero tolerance for physical violence: they say it’s always unacceptable (exactly like that, I imagine)
So expel the victim of a potentially life-ruining act and also a potential crime, and not the person making the deepfake porn. That makes perfect sense.
/sarcasmReally, that deepfake porn is going to do worse damage to someone who isn’t even in high school yet, than a slug to the face ever will; that black-eye will heal, the reputational damage caused by someone making deepfake porn of you, not so much, and deepfake porn is a crime in a lot of places to boot.
Oh, and btw, that person was let back in on probation with that expulsion still on her record, if I were in charge of that school district, I would’ve expunged her record and let her back in with whatever achievements she would’ve had prior to expulsion fully restored, assuming that’s possible, as her acts were fully justifiable IMO, and instead I would’ve expelled the person making and posting the deepfake porn, and potentially pressed charges if deepfake porn is illegal in a given state/province, which is an act that’s far worse than slugging a person as it causes permanent damage to a person’s reputation; like I said, a black-eye will heal, reputational damage caused by deepfake porn won’t.
UPDATE: Charges were pressed against the guy sending the deepfake porn.
Lafourche Parish Sheriff said one student was charged with ten counts of unlawful dissemination of images created by artificial intelligence in September.
