• CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldOP
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    24 hours ago

    Could not agree more. I remember people that were even more centrist having (negative) hot-takes to Michael Moore when he was showing the prison system in another country that was far more enlightened, and that kind of thing continues to disappoint me.

    The best progress, such as it is, that I’ve seen when it comes to prison in this country are on two fronts - one, I’ve seen moderators in some corners (like Wonkette’s comment section) that will come down on “jokes” about rape, even male rape prison. But for most of my life, I it’s just common currency to hear people think that it is hilarious that men will be subjected to rape in prison. Because if they are not able to fight off a rape, that makes them gayyyy, geddit? I have just never understood why that is considered a real kneeslapper.

    Most of these same people, would never think to “joke” about women getting raped in prison. It’s one of those weird cultural things that I hope is changing. Even W had some effort at trying to crack down on it, rather than just thinking it is somehow normal to have males getting raped as part of a supposed rehabilitation system…

    But in general, this country has a very weird moral system that is all too prevalent. Obviously not everyone, but just enough to be problematic, that’s for sure.

    Go to prison, no matter how trivial (or non-existent) the offense? Well, if you are male, maybe rape is part of the experience, because you probably deserve that for reasons. And certainly for everyone that goes to prison, they should be fed rotten food and unclean water and subjected to violence of other kinds, too.

    Because that’s just some real “morality” at work.

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      24 hours ago

      Well said. I see this disgusting attitude among so many “leftists,” even. It’s disturbing.

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        19 hours ago

        I’ve seen the same - at least when talking about sending some wingnut off to prison. I’m glad places like Wonkette ride herd on that really well. When it comes to moderation, it’s hard to get it right, but that place seems to do it about as well as one could ask…

        I think BoingBoing might have had a thing about moderating that out, too, but at some point some years ago, they completely jumped the shark on moderation, and it turned into a navel-gazing far-left Oppression Olympics circle-jerk and no real conversations of any real kind could take place there. And then they took their comments behind a paywall, LOL, so they now stand as a shining example of how NOT to moderate, IMHO.