• CircaV@lemmy.ca
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    3 hours ago

    So Shittler will say elections are stolen and illegal when the midterms roll around and maga gets tossed to the curb? And then what?

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    Really, though, it says a lot about how shitty the democratic party is that the headline says “since 2018” instead of “since the beginning of time”. Trump is a disgusting, rancorous idiot. Everything about him is vile, from his appearance to his voice to his tiny reptilian brain. The fact that the democrats came in second to this human shitstain strongly suggests that the must have, oh i dunno, badly and repeatedly disappointed the american people.

    Maybe they could shit-can their entire leadership and get behind someone like Mamdani. Or just disband and make room for a new party.

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      How many places besides NYC do you think a candidate like Mamdani can win? And I guess I’m asking for even a single point of data that backs this idea up, vs just a hunch that America secretly wants to get far-left.

      We can’t wish a revolution into being, what are the first steps to getting there? How do we unite the people, stop fighting the culture wars so we can fight the class war?

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      I think a large proportion of Americans make hate and cruelty a primary consideration of their voting proclivities. It’s less about how bad the Democrats have fucked up and more about how they haven’t fucked up enough to get voters.

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        1/3 of eligible voters went for Trump. Another 1/3 went for Harris. The remaining 1/3 pretty much checked out. Outside of hate and cruelty, is the biggest problem ignorance or is it apathy? Don’t know, don’t care.

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    Same as the first Trump admin. Dude can’t govern, and people will respond to that. Except this time he’s ethnically cleansing rather than just doing covid wrong.

    Everyone in the US better hope dems can field a candidate through their fucked up primary system that’s gonna be young and re-electable. It’s gonna take at least 8 years to even slightly unfuck this mess.

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      8 years… ha ha ha!!! I know you said at least but I’m not sure will ever truly know how much they’ve fucked things up. I’m 55 and I doubt it will be fixed before I die.

      And if they don’t put some guardrails with some serious teeth and consequences to fix all of things most politicians generally followed in good faith it’s just gonna happen again. I’m seriously starting to believe the American experiment is over. Late stage capitalism, tribalism, and any appearance of empathy have killed it.

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        I’m 28 and I doubt it’ll be meaningfully fixed before I die. Shit’s been beyond fucked basically my entire adult life, and just regular fucked since well before that.

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        Yeah I agree, we’ve been truly fucked since Doge. This might be the end of the experiment, but the empire will limp along for a long time, it’s just how comfortable it is to sit in the maw for us plebs.

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      There’s another article about 6 in 10 saying the country is seriously off track. It’s hard to figure out the voter that says this and then is unsure who to vote for, but somehow that ends up with 8% saying “I don’t know”.

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    The only Congresional poll that matters is the one next November, and Republicans are doing everything they can to make sure that they can still control Congress, even if the Majority of voters don’t want them to.

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      Not true at all. Every well-conducted and reliable poll matters, because it determines where campaign money will be spent, where volunteers will be directed, what stops candidates make, and what issues to press on and which to pivot back to stump on.

      Pretty dumb myopic take you have there, actually.

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        No, I think it’s the only correct take. Otherwise people get complacent. I don’t give a shit if the Democrats’ margin is large, it needs to be larger next November to counteract Republican ratfuckery. If Democrats are not ignoring this poll and managing this as if they are really 8 points down, they’ve already lost.

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          I disagree that it’s the only correct take.

          The argument is “Data may cause people to behave in ways I don’t want them to, so I will assail the data to guide people to behaviors I do want.”

          Like, I can understand and respect your position, but I don’t think it’s the only correct take.

          I think that the structure of your argument is also used broadly by many groups to do terrible things. One can debate the merits of fighting fire with fire, but let’s at least do so with complete awareness.

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          This is the way. People need to show up in overwhelming numbers to the midterms, this time. It’s the only way to effectively counter Trump’s agenda. Democrats need to have the power to not only reverse course on what he’s doing, but also to remove him from office and prosecute every last mutherfucking one of them.

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            It worked during Bush’s 2nd term when the Senate and the House were blue. The opposition was strong enough to stifle Bush from being too out of control.

            The damage may still continue and have been done, but, we need to stifle and slow this nightmare train down somehow. The mid-terms it has to be.

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        Polls influence voting (people are more likely to vote for a perceived winner). And polls are easier to cook than elections.

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    I remember the poll that had Harris winning Iowa in a landslide that was way off. Polls are shit, just show up and vote

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    15 hours ago

    Which is exactly why the nazis in charge are already undermining elections and have been for years. Building up deniability in the minds of their racist voters to make it easier to control the results if not throw them out entirely.

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    Because for almost a year now the DNC has been taking all the money Hillary/Biden/Kamala stole from state parties, back to the state parties.

    Who have been using the funds to work at campaign staffing levels we usually only see for a few months before election.

    That outreach is working, and no one should be surprised.

    It’s just the goal of neoliberlism is a neoliberal president and at most either the House or Senate. If/when they get it all, they have to make up excuses for why they’re not doing what they said they’d do.

    It’s like when an athlete bets their team will win, but not beat the spread…

    Sometimes they end up losing the game by trying to keep it close. But their motivation isn’t winning games, it’s hitting the sweet spot where they get a bunch of unethical money

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      they’re the ones that have passed campaign finance regulations, though. You don’t see any Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders on the other side

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      Until Citizens United is overturned and campaign finance is heavily restricted by Congress, another Democrat administration will simply ratchet themselves further to the right and serve the same oligarchs the Republicans do. Very little will change to improve the lives of ordinary people, and once again the Republicans will use that to take full control in the following cycle.

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        Until Citizens United is overturned and campaign finance is heavily restricted by Congress,

        No, the party runs their own primaries and they can regulate them however they want.

        The DNC and any state parties can get stricter on PACs, which would get a good candidate to the general. Where they wouldn’t be handcuffed by the restrictions in the primary.

        You don’t know what you’re talking about, which wouldn’t be a big deal if the misinformation you’re spreading wouldn’t result in lower voter turnout.

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    Let’s see how the DNC snatches victory from the jaws of defeat this time.

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    Why clog up .world’s front page with tabloids like rawstory and dailybeast? They just repost stuff with an angry headline and Twitter links. Why not link the original source?

    Here it is, for reference:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/poll-frustration-trump-gives-democrats-opening-year-midterms-rcna240551


    But I’ve brought this up many times. Mods and posters don’t seem to care.

    …Eh. I’m blocking this community.

    I like most posts, but I’m sick of seeing tabloid outrage on the front page every day, like Reddit.

  • tornavish@lemmy.cafe
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    Sorry guys, it’s nice that you wanna vote this time but you Did not last time and that was the end of it. It’s every single time you fuckers

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    The US is a one party state … with two different divisions of the party alternating leadership

    There are only two political options in the US … stupidity or even more stupidity