He won the primary so they have to run him. They’ve still unofficially backed Cuomo and even Adams, though, and all of the NY Dem leadership were either late in endorsing him or haven’t yet.
He won the primary in a surprise landslide against the establishment favorite and they’ve been sulking ever since.
In contrast, Adams won his primary by a tiny margin and they were falling over each other to declare him “the future of the party” the very next day.
I feel like yours is just an unproductive, cynical take. Look what the republicans did to transform from Bush era neo-con to whatever the fuck they are now. Sure the incumbents have an advantage, but parties do shift in their makeup and priorities. Instead of bemoaning the Democratic Party his win within it should be celebrated and a signal that it can be realigned into something people will get out and vote for. Really what is the alternative you are advocating for?
Edit:
Read through the other comments eg https://lemmy.world/comment/20106587
I was just trying to highlight Mamdani winning as the system working and that DINOs like Coumo can be replaced. There are a lot of corrupt and entrenched democrats we agree on that.
Instead of bemoaning the Democratic Party his win within it should be celebrated
I AM celebrating. I’m celebrating him and the voters that brought him there while bemoaning the party leadership.
The party leadership that did their best to prevent Mamdani from becoming the nominee after working with Republicans and their media to make sure that his predecessor, a corrupt cop, became the nominee and thus mayor the last time.
I was just trying to highlight Mamdani winning as the system working and that DINOs like Coumo can be replaced
You’re half right. It DOES mean that corrupt corporate Democrats can be replaced, like AOC also proved with her shock defeat of then-chair of the DNC and 10-term incumbent Joe Crowley in 2018.
It does NOT, however, mean that the system is working*. It means that if enough people work hard enough to elect someone exceptionally charismatic who actually listens to them rather than rich owner donors, it CAN be possible to defeat a system that’s specifically designed by both major parties to make it almost literally impossible.
*for the people in general, I mean. It’s working great for the rich and powerful people it was designed to further enrich and empower.
Looks someone didn’t follow the primary lol. Even now establishment dems range from luke-warm to outright refusal to endorse him. The attack campaigns and hugely asymmetric funding for his opponents has largely been from dems.
He’s the democrat nominee because he won against all odds, not because the establishment welcomed him.
Well, the rules are forcing them to run with Mamdani. Plenty of Democratic lawmakers do not like it. Cory Booker, Chuck Schumer, a lot of democratic legislators in his own state are not endorsing him. A lot of them did endorse Cuomo, if they didn’t this year, they have in the past, so to be suddenly mum and not even a feeble “I support him” is… odd at best.
There’s also no word behind the scenes that any legislators are even attempting to get Cuomo to drop out after… how many years has the argument been that third parties split the democratic vote? Now you have a Democrat doing just that and no condemnation from any new York legislators that he’s risking a republican victory. Not even a chant of “Blue no matter who” If bernie sanders had ran independent against Hillary, would Democratic leaders be this silent? Schumer would be furious and making press conferences condemning him. He doesn’t do that to cuomo.
In the meantime, multiple sources have been pushing mayor Adams to step down from his own independent race. Both democratic and republican (and billionaire), presumably to get more votes to cuomo.
Well. We have a bit of a situation. While not too many of us were paying attention, the democratic party was all bought and paid for by aipac and pac. We all thought it was just Republicans. It wasn’t.
The Dems have been becoming less for the people and just another Republican party. And for the last 10 years at least (likely accelerated by citizens United (aka- legal bribing of politicians) they are basically almost 100% Republican. I recall telling my lefty friends I thought Kamala sounded like a Republican. Cause she did.
Democrats were presented like the party that supported BLM, trans rights, pro lgbtq. Pro education. Housing the homeless. Food for kids. Free education. All that good stuff.
But in reality they have done very little for any of those things. They just didn’t publicly go against any of them.
Though they often did vote against them if the aipac or pac money told them too. They are like 80% bought and paid for.
We incorrectly assumed they stood with those good things. In part due to a few of the Dem politicians actually pushing a few bills. Mostly at the state level.
But literally just a handful of bills in the last decade. Nothing that actually fully protected these groups or services.
So when Trump started his illegal b.s, they weren’t going to go against him. Why would they. ?
Many Dems voted for his completely unqualified cabinet members.
That was at the start of the year.
Now after things have been ramping up, we have about a dozen Dems (in office) finally speaking up.
Out of those. Half are posers. They voted with Trump on cabinet picks, to block Epstein list. And they voted against Al Greens impeachment. Oh and let’s not forget. The big beautiful bill. Plenty of Dems voted for it.
So here is our predicament.
We have a compromised party.
They dem posers are going to do whatever they can to keep their positions and pac money.
It’s a corrupt “club”. They don’t want anyone coming in and disrupting their power.
They don’t want new dems coming in who will show everyone how corrupt they are. Call them out.
Show the people it can be different.
These corrupt Dems all need to go. And right now there are so damn many of them. Including Jeffries and Schumer. That it’s going to be a challenge just to get the party cleaned up.
At the same time we are trying to fight fascist take over.
It’s quite a lot.
But we have to clean house. Replace every single one if we have to. Any who are not being incredibly vocal and direct about Israel, Gaza, human rights, and trump.
No more Dems who won’t make a stand for us.
No more Republicans pretending to be Dems.
Many are saying we need a 3rd party. We do have independents. But I do think we can take the dem party back for the people. We just need to vote in the right people. Push back against corporate bots and propaganda. Vote in our own self interest.
The Democratic party establishment has not been on his side at all. Ken Martin just endorsed him like two weeks ago, because it looks inevitable he’ll win, not because he ever supported Mamdani. A last second endorsement from the head of the party is a slap in the face.
Dems see a socialist and immediately become Republican. They are so removed from their voters…
Isn’t Mamdani a democrat? Can you explain how the democratic party running Mamdani shows they are removed from their voters?
He won the primary so they have to run him. They’ve still unofficially backed Cuomo and even Adams, though, and all of the NY Dem leadership were either late in endorsing him or haven’t yet.
He won the primary in a surprise landslide against the establishment favorite and they’ve been sulking ever since.
In contrast, Adams won his primary by a tiny margin and they were falling over each other to declare him “the future of the party” the very next day.
Democracy in action! Those darned democrats.
I feel like yours is just an unproductive, cynical take. Look what the republicans did to transform from Bush era neo-con to whatever the fuck they are now. Sure the incumbents have an advantage, but parties do shift in their makeup and priorities. Instead of bemoaning the Democratic Party his win within it should be celebrated and a signal that it can be realigned into something people will get out and vote for. Really what is the alternative you are advocating for?
Edit: Read through the other comments eg https://lemmy.world/comment/20106587 I was just trying to highlight Mamdani winning as the system working and that DINOs like Coumo can be replaced. There are a lot of corrupt and entrenched democrats we agree on that.
I AM celebrating. I’m celebrating him and the voters that brought him there while bemoaning the party leadership.
The party leadership that did their best to prevent Mamdani from becoming the nominee after working with Republicans and their media to make sure that his predecessor, a corrupt cop, became the nominee and thus mayor the last time.
You’re half right. It DOES mean that corrupt corporate Democrats can be replaced, like AOC also proved with her shock defeat of then-chair of the DNC and 10-term incumbent Joe Crowley in 2018.
It does NOT, however, mean that the system is working*. It means that if enough people work hard enough to elect someone exceptionally charismatic who actually listens to them rather than rich owner donors, it CAN be possible to defeat a system that’s specifically designed by both major parties to make it almost literally impossible.
*for the people in general, I mean. It’s working great for the rich and powerful people it was designed to further enrich and empower.
Looks someone didn’t follow the primary lol. Even now establishment dems range from luke-warm to outright refusal to endorse him. The attack campaigns and hugely asymmetric funding for his opponents has largely been from dems.
He’s the democrat nominee because he won against all odds, not because the establishment welcomed him.
Well, the rules are forcing them to run with Mamdani. Plenty of Democratic lawmakers do not like it. Cory Booker, Chuck Schumer, a lot of democratic legislators in his own state are not endorsing him. A lot of them did endorse Cuomo, if they didn’t this year, they have in the past, so to be suddenly mum and not even a feeble “I support him” is… odd at best.
There’s also no word behind the scenes that any legislators are even attempting to get Cuomo to drop out after… how many years has the argument been that third parties split the democratic vote? Now you have a Democrat doing just that and no condemnation from any new York legislators that he’s risking a republican victory. Not even a chant of “Blue no matter who” If bernie sanders had ran independent against Hillary, would Democratic leaders be this silent? Schumer would be furious and making press conferences condemning him. He doesn’t do that to cuomo.
In the meantime, multiple sources have been pushing mayor Adams to step down from his own independent race. Both democratic and republican (and billionaire), presumably to get more votes to cuomo.
Well. We have a bit of a situation. While not too many of us were paying attention, the democratic party was all bought and paid for by aipac and pac. We all thought it was just Republicans. It wasn’t.
The Dems have been becoming less for the people and just another Republican party. And for the last 10 years at least (likely accelerated by citizens United (aka- legal bribing of politicians) they are basically almost 100% Republican. I recall telling my lefty friends I thought Kamala sounded like a Republican. Cause she did.
Democrats were presented like the party that supported BLM, trans rights, pro lgbtq. Pro education. Housing the homeless. Food for kids. Free education. All that good stuff. But in reality they have done very little for any of those things. They just didn’t publicly go against any of them.
Though they often did vote against them if the aipac or pac money told them too. They are like 80% bought and paid for.
We incorrectly assumed they stood with those good things. In part due to a few of the Dem politicians actually pushing a few bills. Mostly at the state level.
But literally just a handful of bills in the last decade. Nothing that actually fully protected these groups or services.
So when Trump started his illegal b.s, they weren’t going to go against him. Why would they. ?
Many Dems voted for his completely unqualified cabinet members.
That was at the start of the year.
Now after things have been ramping up, we have about a dozen Dems (in office) finally speaking up.
Out of those. Half are posers. They voted with Trump on cabinet picks, to block Epstein list. And they voted against Al Greens impeachment. Oh and let’s not forget. The big beautiful bill. Plenty of Dems voted for it.
So here is our predicament. We have a compromised party.
They dem posers are going to do whatever they can to keep their positions and pac money.
It’s a corrupt “club”. They don’t want anyone coming in and disrupting their power.
They don’t want new dems coming in who will show everyone how corrupt they are. Call them out. Show the people it can be different.
These corrupt Dems all need to go. And right now there are so damn many of them. Including Jeffries and Schumer. That it’s going to be a challenge just to get the party cleaned up.
At the same time we are trying to fight fascist take over.
It’s quite a lot.
But we have to clean house. Replace every single one if we have to. Any who are not being incredibly vocal and direct about Israel, Gaza, human rights, and trump.
No more Dems who won’t make a stand for us. No more Republicans pretending to be Dems.
Many are saying we need a 3rd party. We do have independents. But I do think we can take the dem party back for the people. We just need to vote in the right people. Push back against corporate bots and propaganda. Vote in our own self interest.
The Democratic party establishment has not been on his side at all. Ken Martin just endorsed him like two weeks ago, because it looks inevitable he’ll win, not because he ever supported Mamdani. A last second endorsement from the head of the party is a slap in the face.