When Gina Carano got fired for saying that “the left” had created an atmosphere, where it was OK to abuse those “the left” didnt agree with, she was fired because she likened this to how the nazis did the same to create an atmosphere where hating Jewish people was OK. “The right” then came out moaning about free speech, and “the left” said that disney was a private company and could fire whoever they wanted.
Now its… three/four? Years later, and Kimmel has been fired for saying that Kirks shooter was right wing and that “the right” were doing anything they can to make it appear otherwise. Disney once again, has taken action by not quite firing Kimmel, but its effectively what it is. Now “the left” is banging on about free speech, and “the right” is jerking off to the sound of “consequences” and "Disney is a private company who can fire anyone they want.
Its kinda funny how points of view are so easily moved around depending on the politics are play, huh?
This is kinda the world you all created for yourselves. Anyone not balls deep in the dumb culture wars told you this “cancel culture” would have swings and roundabouts. Fucking with peoples lives and careers because they made some edgy joke on twitter a decade earlier. Celebrating cunts like Skai Jackson who was doxxing fucking children online, and sending millions of her followers after those children because they said something mildly racist. Its all a big fucking nightmare now, and its never going to stop. The right, the left, whoever is on top will be coming for whoever, for whatever, whenever. None you could just leave it at dont watch the people you dont like. You had to have them fired or ruin their lives. Well, this is what that looks like now. Congrats, you played yourselves.
Yeah, without taking into context history you seem to miss several important points. It was never a both sides issue and this was seen in the red scare otherwise known as McCarthyism. You see the government literally purged all the left wing people during this time.
This destroyed the left, it never recovered. The left has never even done something close to this. The right’s invention of “cancel culture” propaganda was a response to being held accountable for abusing women during the me too movement.
The devil in is the details which you gloss right over to come to a counterproductive and laughable conclusion.
See, this is all fucking lies. Lies that you were fed, because it fit some ideal of the righteous avenger that you see yourself as. The fact is, loads of people abused me too. Thats why no one cares about it anymore. Thats why people have gone back to NOT pointing at the people who abuse them. Cancel culture is alive and well, what I will say is that it was never a left wing thing. Nothing is ever just left or right thing. Its a culture war thing. Havent you noticed that you are all calling each other “fascists” and “nazis”? Its all the same thing, just coming from two different angles.
The fact is, you are all playing this dumb fucking game. Both sides seeing themselves as the good guys, while we kinda hang around not talking about the Epstein files… funny that, huh? Right wing, left wing, repukes and democrazies, all the same thing. How anyone can look at what the dems did to AOC in December, and have the balls to call themselves the good guys is a joke. Its all fucked. And anyone who thinks theyre team is the “good” team, is a coolaid drinking muppet.
Also, there is no “left” in America, there is only right and further right. Thats it. You call yourselves left, and the rest of the world throws up in its fucking mouth.
There is no legal way for the FCC to force disney to do anything. This was one man, Carr, talking out of is arse, trying to look hard for his orange daddy. Why anyone would take what he said seriously, I dont know. If Carr had the power to do anything, he would have done it through legal channels. But he didnt. He just said some shit, and everyone pointed to that being the “real reason” because it couldnt possibly just be that disney, a company with a history of throwing talent under the bus, could just want to walk away from him.
Yes, thats what I said. That means that anything they do, cant be done legally, and can fought off easily. Why the fuck are you all so desperate to not be wrong here?
No, he doesnt. If he did, he would have used it. People who can do something, dont make public statements. They just do it. You notice how Trump talks shit 24/7, yet its all that. Talking shit. This Carr dude is the same thing, they all are. All talk, no cock.
But lets say he does, lets say he makes an order to shut down ABC. Congrats, he just gave ABC billions of dollars in law suit money. And they are back on the air anyway, and he most likely goes to playboy prison for abuse of power.
The problem with the culture wars, is that you are all so far gone you dont trust the system. You dont, they dont, all you all think everyone else is cheating. Notice how in 2020, they all said you stole the election? And in 2024, you said they stole it. The system is just fine. Its just as fucked as it always way, but its fine. You can trust it. Its not slooooooowwwwwwwww. At some point, the Epstein files come out. At some point, Trump gets done for raping kids, colluding with a convicted paedophile and giving her a reward for perverting the course of justice(Her crime meant that she had no legal right to be transferred). And the list goes on and on. But eventually, it will all sort itself out. Unless of course, you stop talking about the Epstein files because some dog shit comedian got sacked for not being funny…
Kimmel did not say he’s rightwing. He said the right is doing everything they can to make it appear he isn’t one of them. As usual, your collective persecution fetish fills in the blanks.
A corporation caving to public pressure/sentiment is very different than caving to the president of the United States after he threatens to use the levers of government power to destroy their business. To me these things are night and day.
SO much false equivalence here, but the most important distinction is that it was at the behest of the US government that Kimmel was silenced. No matter who it was or what was said, this is not only not okay, it’s deeply illegal. Nothing of the sort was remotely the case with Gina Carano.
And you can prove that? Because if you can, then its pretty easy to sue and win as that would be extremely illegal. So, the evidence of that is… Oh wait, there isnt any. Its just that Carr said stuff, and people think that means something. But it doesnt. As there would be no way to enforce it legally. Thats why there is no official “order”.
Its not false equivlence, its the same fucking thing. You just dont like it because its outing you for what you are, a culture war weirdo who gets off on this constant and needless drama.
And not for nothing, but Gina Carano was getting rape and death threats because she wouldnt change put her pronouns on her bio. That was what prompted her to make the comparison to the atmosphere that nazis created around Jewish people. When the same thing happened to Laura Bailey because she was the voice of Abby in the Last of us part 2, there was public outrage. But for some reason, its totally fine that Gina got rape and death threats because she was a moron that spouted dumb maga nonsense… Yeah, no. No one should be getting rape and death threats, just like no one should be getting murdered, and no one and I mean fucking no one, should be allowed to keep a platform that they use to corrupt or mislead the public. The only issue I have with Kimmel being taken off the air, is that hes not even close to be the only one who does it. Fox News, which I know you will agree with me on, has been doing that shit for years. They need to be held to account as well. More in fact.
At the end of the day, its all a fucking circus. A soap opera played out in easily digestible clickbait headlines that no one ever reads beyond. We believe screen shots from twitter uploaded on to imgr and reposted on reddit before being reposted on twitter again, as long as they align with our narrative. But when someone posts a link to a source discounting that random twitter post, all of sudden everyone is hyper critical of believing random news articles and you need “better” sources, like any source would actually change anyones mind once its made up.
The whole thing is a fucking shit show, and the fact that you are all saying the same things, word for word in some cases, is fucking hilarious to me. You can either see this information for what it is, and revaluate your relationship to social media and have a serious look at what its doing to you, or you can just call me a cunt, hit that downward facing arrow and be on you merry way, confident in the knowledge that you put a “fascist” in his place… The choice is yours, chief. If nothing else, I hope you have a great weekend. Even if you do end up calling me a cunt lol. Take care.
isn’t there a difference between a president actively pursuing a firing of someone based on their free speech, vs a company deciding to do it for any reason other literal government coercion? if disney decides someone is fired because they think the court of public opinion is going to result in a negative financial impact, that’s pretty different from the president of the country calling for his firing even if there’s a percentage of the population who called for their firing.
pretty sick of the false equivalencies between the government applying influence, and private corporations deciding actions based on what they deem profitable. neither are based on morals, but the government is supposed to be the one curtailing this shit, not fanning the flames.
that said, i do think i agree with you partly, if i read this correctly, in that people should absolutely be ready to be punched in the face if they hold a contentious opinion. a lot of shitheads would be shutting the fuck up a lot more if nazis got punched more often instead of being praised. if being not-fascist becomes a contentious opinion, you can be sure as shit i’ll be ready to be punched in the face for standing up against racist fuckhead nazis
What influence? Carr is toothless, thats why he made a public statement. To “look” hard. But he had nothing to use against Disney, because as you are all pointing out, it would be illegal as fuck. But hey, Kimmel can sue if this is the case. All he has to do is prove it.
But the point isnt that the stars perfectly align, the point is that the talking points are the same. You are saying the very same things, and dismissing whatever you dont agree with. Gina, Rosanna, Johnny, Jimmy, it doesnt matter. The points of view are the same, they just come from different angles based on what your politics is. Thats the joke, IMO.
Not the same animal. Carano is part of a franchise marketed to all age ranges but is very popular with children. Star Wars is a huge cash cow for Disney, and despite Disney being it’s own kind of tyrant, it does give a fuck about its image to families of all kinds. Everyone with half a brain knows this.
Kimmel is late night TV for adults in which political commentary is par for the course. That’s it. No more no less.
One got fired because a company didn’t like what an employee said while very much a public figure for that organization, the other was just doing what they’re supposed to do and the government got them fired. One is a clear violation of the First Amendment, the other is collecting an unemployment check.
When Gina Carano got fired for saying that “the left” had created an atmosphere, where it was OK to abuse those “the left” didnt agree with, she was fired because she likened this to how the nazis did the same to create an atmosphere where hating Jewish people was OK. “The right” then came out moaning about free speech, and “the left” said that disney was a private company and could fire whoever they wanted.
Now its… three/four? Years later, and Kimmel has been fired for saying that Kirks shooter was right wing and that “the right” were doing anything they can to make it appear otherwise. Disney once again, has taken action by not quite firing Kimmel, but its effectively what it is. Now “the left” is banging on about free speech, and “the right” is jerking off to the sound of “consequences” and "Disney is a private company who can fire anyone they want.
Its kinda funny how points of view are so easily moved around depending on the politics are play, huh?
This is kinda the world you all created for yourselves. Anyone not balls deep in the dumb culture wars told you this “cancel culture” would have swings and roundabouts. Fucking with peoples lives and careers because they made some edgy joke on twitter a decade earlier. Celebrating cunts like Skai Jackson who was doxxing fucking children online, and sending millions of her followers after those children because they said something mildly racist. Its all a big fucking nightmare now, and its never going to stop. The right, the left, whoever is on top will be coming for whoever, for whatever, whenever. None you could just leave it at dont watch the people you dont like. You had to have them fired or ruin their lives. Well, this is what that looks like now. Congrats, you played yourselves.
Yeah, without taking into context history you seem to miss several important points. It was never a both sides issue and this was seen in the red scare otherwise known as McCarthyism. You see the government literally purged all the left wing people during this time.
This destroyed the left, it never recovered. The left has never even done something close to this. The right’s invention of “cancel culture” propaganda was a response to being held accountable for abusing women during the me too movement.
The devil in is the details which you gloss right over to come to a counterproductive and laughable conclusion.
See, this is all fucking lies. Lies that you were fed, because it fit some ideal of the righteous avenger that you see yourself as. The fact is, loads of people abused me too. Thats why no one cares about it anymore. Thats why people have gone back to NOT pointing at the people who abuse them. Cancel culture is alive and well, what I will say is that it was never a left wing thing. Nothing is ever just left or right thing. Its a culture war thing. Havent you noticed that you are all calling each other “fascists” and “nazis”? Its all the same thing, just coming from two different angles.
The fact is, you are all playing this dumb fucking game. Both sides seeing themselves as the good guys, while we kinda hang around not talking about the Epstein files… funny that, huh? Right wing, left wing, repukes and democrazies, all the same thing. How anyone can look at what the dems did to AOC in December, and have the balls to call themselves the good guys is a joke. Its all fucked. And anyone who thinks theyre team is the “good” team, is a coolaid drinking muppet.
Also, there is no “left” in America, there is only right and further right. Thats it. You call yourselves left, and the rest of the world throws up in its fucking mouth.
Disney was coerced by the federal government via FCC commissioner threats and literally by Donald Trump himself, President the United States.
If you don’t understand what the difference is, you really need to shut the fuck up until you can graduate high school.
There is no legal way for the FCC to force disney to do anything. This was one man, Carr, talking out of is arse, trying to look hard for his orange daddy. Why anyone would take what he said seriously, I dont know. If Carr had the power to do anything, he would have done it through legal channels. But he didnt. He just said some shit, and everyone pointed to that being the “real reason” because it couldnt possibly just be that disney, a company with a history of throwing talent under the bus, could just want to walk away from him.
Yes, thats what I said. That means that anything they do, cant be done legally, and can fought off easily. Why the fuck are you all so desperate to not be wrong here?
It’s astounding how close they are to understanding, and yet…
It really is…
Maybe because he’s Chairman of the FCC, and wields enormous power?
No, he doesnt. If he did, he would have used it. People who can do something, dont make public statements. They just do it. You notice how Trump talks shit 24/7, yet its all that. Talking shit. This Carr dude is the same thing, they all are. All talk, no cock.
But lets say he does, lets say he makes an order to shut down ABC. Congrats, he just gave ABC billions of dollars in law suit money. And they are back on the air anyway, and he most likely goes to playboy prison for abuse of power.
The problem with the culture wars, is that you are all so far gone you dont trust the system. You dont, they dont, all you all think everyone else is cheating. Notice how in 2020, they all said you stole the election? And in 2024, you said they stole it. The system is just fine. Its just as fucked as it always way, but its fine. You can trust it. Its not slooooooowwwwwwwww. At some point, the Epstein files come out. At some point, Trump gets done for raping kids, colluding with a convicted paedophile and giving her a reward for perverting the course of justice(Her crime meant that she had no legal right to be transferred). And the list goes on and on. But eventually, it will all sort itself out. Unless of course, you stop talking about the Epstein files because some dog shit comedian got sacked for not being funny…
Guys I think this is literally Gina Carano’s Lemmy account, she’s been talking about this shit in like three threads
Kimmel did not say he’s rightwing. He said the right is doing everything they can to make it appear he isn’t one of them. As usual, your collective persecution fetish fills in the blanks.
A corporation caving to public pressure/sentiment is very different than caving to the president of the United States after he threatens to use the levers of government power to destroy their business. To me these things are night and day.
SO much false equivalence here, but the most important distinction is that it was at the behest of the US government that Kimmel was silenced. No matter who it was or what was said, this is not only not okay, it’s deeply illegal. Nothing of the sort was remotely the case with Gina Carano.
And you can prove that? Because if you can, then its pretty easy to sue and win as that would be extremely illegal. So, the evidence of that is… Oh wait, there isnt any. Its just that Carr said stuff, and people think that means something. But it doesnt. As there would be no way to enforce it legally. Thats why there is no official “order”.
Its not false equivlence, its the same fucking thing. You just dont like it because its outing you for what you are, a culture war weirdo who gets off on this constant and needless drama.
And not for nothing, but Gina Carano was getting rape and death threats because she wouldnt change put her pronouns on her bio. That was what prompted her to make the comparison to the atmosphere that nazis created around Jewish people. When the same thing happened to Laura Bailey because she was the voice of Abby in the Last of us part 2, there was public outrage. But for some reason, its totally fine that Gina got rape and death threats because she was a moron that spouted dumb maga nonsense… Yeah, no. No one should be getting rape and death threats, just like no one should be getting murdered, and no one and I mean fucking no one, should be allowed to keep a platform that they use to corrupt or mislead the public. The only issue I have with Kimmel being taken off the air, is that hes not even close to be the only one who does it. Fox News, which I know you will agree with me on, has been doing that shit for years. They need to be held to account as well. More in fact.
At the end of the day, its all a fucking circus. A soap opera played out in easily digestible clickbait headlines that no one ever reads beyond. We believe screen shots from twitter uploaded on to imgr and reposted on reddit before being reposted on twitter again, as long as they align with our narrative. But when someone posts a link to a source discounting that random twitter post, all of sudden everyone is hyper critical of believing random news articles and you need “better” sources, like any source would actually change anyones mind once its made up.
The whole thing is a fucking shit show, and the fact that you are all saying the same things, word for word in some cases, is fucking hilarious to me. You can either see this information for what it is, and revaluate your relationship to social media and have a serious look at what its doing to you, or you can just call me a cunt, hit that downward facing arrow and be on you merry way, confident in the knowledge that you put a “fascist” in his place… The choice is yours, chief. If nothing else, I hope you have a great weekend. Even if you do end up calling me a cunt lol. Take care.
isn’t there a difference between a president actively pursuing a firing of someone based on their free speech, vs a company deciding to do it for any reason other literal government coercion? if disney decides someone is fired because they think the court of public opinion is going to result in a negative financial impact, that’s pretty different from the president of the country calling for his firing even if there’s a percentage of the population who called for their firing.
pretty sick of the false equivalencies between the government applying influence, and private corporations deciding actions based on what they deem profitable. neither are based on morals, but the government is supposed to be the one curtailing this shit, not fanning the flames.
that said, i do think i agree with you partly, if i read this correctly, in that people should absolutely be ready to be punched in the face if they hold a contentious opinion. a lot of shitheads would be shutting the fuck up a lot more if nazis got punched more often instead of being praised. if being not-fascist becomes a contentious opinion, you can be sure as shit i’ll be ready to be punched in the face for standing up against racist fuckhead nazis
What influence? Carr is toothless, thats why he made a public statement. To “look” hard. But he had nothing to use against Disney, because as you are all pointing out, it would be illegal as fuck. But hey, Kimmel can sue if this is the case. All he has to do is prove it.
But the point isnt that the stars perfectly align, the point is that the talking points are the same. You are saying the very same things, and dismissing whatever you dont agree with. Gina, Rosanna, Johnny, Jimmy, it doesnt matter. The points of view are the same, they just come from different angles based on what your politics is. Thats the joke, IMO.
Bro, you get your bread ration from Russia for writing all this bullshit, fuck off
Not the same animal. Carano is part of a franchise marketed to all age ranges but is very popular with children. Star Wars is a huge cash cow for Disney, and despite Disney being it’s own kind of tyrant, it does give a fuck about its image to families of all kinds. Everyone with half a brain knows this.
Kimmel is late night TV for adults in which political commentary is par for the course. That’s it. No more no less.
One got fired because a company didn’t like what an employee said while very much a public figure for that organization, the other was just doing what they’re supposed to do and the government got them fired. One is a clear violation of the First Amendment, the other is collecting an unemployment check.