the hands of a citizenry that can’t be bothered to make sure it all stays on the rails
I don’t understand how we can survive.
Every day now I think about leaving. I want to be here but I can’t see how it will survive.
The US is unique because it was able to constantly absorb in all this new blood from outside to wash off the stagnation, keep things solid and strong, but now that’s cut off. [emphasis added]
Arguably, it is this sort of superficial, exceptionalist rhetoric is at the root cause of the situation
If you keep parroting, “freedom this, freedom that”, your not going to be able to make a true evaluation of the price and nature of freedoms when push comes to shove.
My brother I think you need to reread what I actually wrote.
My country is trying to die, there are monsters in the streets and it’s hard for me to see how we can win the fight that is coming for us. From my side you’re not going to bother me too much with any negativity you type in a Lemmy comment.
Interesting. You haven’t read “more” in the singular with that meaning (definitely not in formal language, if you did see it it would be because of someone trying to be fancy but making a mistake). “Mores” is from Latin, the singular is “mos” which isn’t used in English. “Mores” is a very very unusual word for a non native speaker to use, that’s just what made me curious.
For future reference I don’t think I would describe almost any common person in America as “centre-right” politically right now. Almost everyone is either MAGA, or at-least-center-left (on the American version of the spectrum at least), or apolitical-or-pretending-to-be. And almost no one anywhere on the right knows what the gilded age was. IDK, maybe it’s an issue of translating their politics into your terminology and then back into English.
Also it was a little bit strange that you seemed to almost totally ignore my “my country is dying I hate this” comment and somehow take the opposite meaning from it. Your reply was kind of boilerplate, just something you could say to any American who made a reply to your comment, with a few fitting quotes from my message taken out of context up at the top. Then there are sort of weirdly formal structures to it (the bulleted list breaking down components of your argument like an essay, and “consider novel approaches” and “cultural mores” and things like that). I would say it sounds like LLM text, except that there are also in it minor grammar mistakes (which is fine honestly, I’m a native speaker and I make plenty of those.)
I was just curious, just prodding a little bit, that is all, hope you do not take offense. Maybe you did some academic work in English, and so that’s just become the way you write when you’re writing English and so it’s unlike a lot of Lemmy comments as a result.
No offence taken. Nah it’s not an LLM. It’s just my writing style (and occasionally speaking style when discussing more formal topics). I do that in other languages too. That being said, the other languages that I speak have a formal sounding tone with written text by default. I started learning English when I was very young and I’ve been speaking/reading/writing from an early age. LLM output may have a similar tone (the formalism), but they don’t output the same context/arguments without extensive prompting (which would require more work than just writing out the reply by hand). And you are correct that you would need elaborate prompting to simulate minor grammar errors and typos. :)
For me, centre-right = Democrat, far right = Republican. It’s not a translation issue, I am well aware that my language style doesn’t align with commonly used terminology. That’s the basic distribution of the US political spectrum in a global sense. The word “liberal” is used incorrectly by Americans. Even the term “conservative” in the American context is more borderline. From my experience conservatives globally tend to have a subtle, but different outlook than what is marketed as conservatism in the US.
Honestly, my reply was badly thought out in retrospective. The reply was indeed boilerplate what I would say to any American (I make the same arguments to my American friends albeit I modify how explicit I am depending on who I am talking to) and the emphasis was by design. I was trying to emphasize that there is benefit to “novel approaches” 😆 and that standard methods and even analysis (in the US context) can work, until the day comes when it doesn’t work.
I will happily concede the discussion about US exceptionalism if there is reason for it. An example would be changing the situation on the ground via mass scale, bottom up protest (the Democratic party is too corrupt, too cowardly and have no new ideas) with the government losing control over parts of the country (e.g. institutions like local courts and admin, key transport infrastructure like airports) and showing the rest of the country that the scale of the protests (e.g. 60 million strong daily protests, with weekend peaks approaching 100 million), their determination (no compromises, immediate resignation of the current administration and all senior enablers) and most importantly gumption (letting both senior business leaders and security forced understand that they risk going down with ship and the captain and his team will be the first to bail if things get hot).
Me ignoring the “my country is dying I hate this” was a lack of compassion on my part. My bad. The doomer last paragraph in my OP was also uncalled for. I am trying (and failing in this case) to point out that now is not the time to think of exceptionalism, the time is to make it happen.
My brother I think you need to reread what I actually wrote.
Look man, I genuinely don’t want steer things in an even more negative direction.
Perhaps I misread things. Honestly, I regret writing my OP in such a negative tone and I should have been more constructive.
I was just sharing things that came to mind.
My country is trying to die, there are monsters in the streets and it’s hard for me to see how we can win the fight that is coming for us. From my side you’re not going to bother me too much with any negativity you type in a Lemmy comment.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/mores
It seems that the singular form of mores is non-standad, although I could have sworn I read it in more formal works.
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/mores
Interesting. You haven’t read “more” in the singular with that meaning (definitely not in formal language, if you did see it it would be because of someone trying to be fancy but making a mistake). “Mores” is from Latin, the singular is “mos” which isn’t used in English. “Mores” is a very very unusual word for a non native speaker to use, that’s just what made me curious.
For future reference I don’t think I would describe almost any common person in America as “centre-right” politically right now. Almost everyone is either MAGA, or at-least-center-left (on the American version of the spectrum at least), or apolitical-or-pretending-to-be. And almost no one anywhere on the right knows what the gilded age was. IDK, maybe it’s an issue of translating their politics into your terminology and then back into English.
Also it was a little bit strange that you seemed to almost totally ignore my “my country is dying I hate this” comment and somehow take the opposite meaning from it. Your reply was kind of boilerplate, just something you could say to any American who made a reply to your comment, with a few fitting quotes from my message taken out of context up at the top. Then there are sort of weirdly formal structures to it (the bulleted list breaking down components of your argument like an essay, and “consider novel approaches” and “cultural mores” and things like that). I would say it sounds like LLM text, except that there are also in it minor grammar mistakes (which is fine honestly, I’m a native speaker and I make plenty of those.)
I was just curious, just prodding a little bit, that is all, hope you do not take offense. Maybe you did some academic work in English, and so that’s just become the way you write when you’re writing English and so it’s unlike a lot of Lemmy comments as a result.
No offence taken. Nah it’s not an LLM. It’s just my writing style (and occasionally speaking style when discussing more formal topics). I do that in other languages too. That being said, the other languages that I speak have a formal sounding tone with written text by default. I started learning English when I was very young and I’ve been speaking/reading/writing from an early age. LLM output may have a similar tone (the formalism), but they don’t output the same context/arguments without extensive prompting (which would require more work than just writing out the reply by hand). And you are correct that you would need elaborate prompting to simulate minor grammar errors and typos. :)
For me, centre-right = Democrat, far right = Republican. It’s not a translation issue, I am well aware that my language style doesn’t align with commonly used terminology. That’s the basic distribution of the US political spectrum in a global sense. The word “liberal” is used incorrectly by Americans. Even the term “conservative” in the American context is more borderline. From my experience conservatives globally tend to have a subtle, but different outlook than what is marketed as conservatism in the US.
Honestly, my reply was badly thought out in retrospective. The reply was indeed boilerplate what I would say to any American (I make the same arguments to my American friends albeit I modify how explicit I am depending on who I am talking to) and the emphasis was by design. I was trying to emphasize that there is benefit to “novel approaches” 😆 and that standard methods and even analysis (in the US context) can work, until the day comes when it doesn’t work.
I will happily concede the discussion about US exceptionalism if there is reason for it. An example would be changing the situation on the ground via mass scale, bottom up protest (the Democratic party is too corrupt, too cowardly and have no new ideas) with the government losing control over parts of the country (e.g. institutions like local courts and admin, key transport infrastructure like airports) and showing the rest of the country that the scale of the protests (e.g. 60 million strong daily protests, with weekend peaks approaching 100 million), their determination (no compromises, immediate resignation of the current administration and all senior enablers) and most importantly gumption (letting both senior business leaders and security forced understand that they risk going down with ship and the captain and his team will be the first to bail if things get hot).
Me ignoring the “my country is dying I hate this” was a lack of compassion on my part. My bad. The doomer last paragraph in my OP was also uncalled for. I am trying (and failing in this case) to point out that now is not the time to think of exceptionalism, the time is to make it happen.