Sure you have, it was called Trump’s first term.
Oh noes! Reich Wingers getting exactly what they demanded, and feeling the consequences of it!
They wanted money for nothing
And their chicks for free.
Perpetual Mo
tionney Machine
A really good piece on the realities of this topic is here: https://youtu.be/badGHJLDpP8
TL;DW: Farmers thought they were voting for cheap labor and a bailout, like they got last time. They also thought that, as wealthy landowners1, they were on the “right side” of these disastrous trade policies and were going to be carried through this mess.
1. I struggled with this concept at first. Things have changed a lot since the pre-WWII era that conjures up images of Ma & Pa Kent in a weathered century-home, on a lonely corn farm in Kansas. It’s big business now. Good farm land isn’t cheap, equipment is expensive, (legitimate) labor is expensive, fertilizer & irrigation costs a lot, pest control costs, crops are risky in general, and so on. When you work out how much money is moving around and what a farm’s net worth is, these people are millionaires even if they’re not in the black all the time.
What’s really funny to people outside of the US is that cheap labour and a bailout is exactly what they would hve received from Harris.
Agreed. Considering that the alternative to that is always higher food prices, it’s political suicide to not do this.
Unless you are planning on not having elections.
I have more sympathy for my toenail clippings than I do for Trump voters getting exactly what they voted for.
Dont worry. Hard working people from blue states will bail them out. Again
are the farmers in dire straits, or are independent farmers in dire straights?
i make the distinction because if the purpose is to make the rich, richer, then this is a feature, not a bug for republicans
Yeah it’s just the independent farmers. Here in Arkansas they’re either losing their farms or straight up killing themselves, at a brisk pace too.
Happens here too. And who scoops up the land when it gets liquidated? JD goddamn Vance and his vultures.
All part of the plan :(
People like to use the example of Crassus’ fire brigade as an analogy for how corporate interests extract value from regular people in society. Crassus and his fire brigade would go around buying burning houses on the cheap, and then put out the fire for the benefit of Crassus, the new owner. There were some who believed that Crassus was setting the fires himself, but the extractive playbook here works whether he was setting them himself or not.
Are agricultural megacorps buying up farms with depressed values and then fixing them so that the values increase? Probably not. They’re in basically the same boat with the price of commodities, in terms of the inputs (water, fertilizer, labor, equipment and machinery, fuel, energy) and the outputs (wheat, corn, soybeans, etc.). It’s a problem for them, too.
Maybe they have deep enough pockets to ride out the current crisis and will have more to show for it in the end, but for now, they’re in the same boat.
The goal is the collapse and consolidation of farms for private equity. JD is being loud about supporting one venture group buying up farms but it wouldn’t surprise me if that was a proxy group and the one he is parading is supposed to take on liabilities and shed its assets, typical venture cap behavior.
This was all a calculated strategy to make independent farmers go bankrupt and into foreclosure, so that the big agritech companies could snag prime agricultural land for pennies on the dollar.
At some point, most food will be grown by corporations that can set whatever price they want for that food, and people will have to pay that price or starve to death. It’s the definition of “captured audience” that makes the Parasite Class extract so much wealth from the working class and become so fantastically wealthy.
Has this not already happened? The mythos of the independent farmer has existed since the great depression. I’m not convinced independent farmers actually exist anymore. Farmers are serfs who buy their seeds and their herbicides/fertilizers from Monsanto, and their tractors from John Deere. They lease the land from generational trusts and wall-street speculators.
Why would a corporation want to assume the risk of actually producing anything?It’s been happening steadily for a while, Trump just opened up a lot of avenues to accelerate it. There are still a lot of small and medium family farms that own their land and equipment.
I sincerely doubt it was calculated. This regime can’t think past its next Big Mac. The toddler in chief is far too reactionary to actually have a strategy beyond tomorrow’s unconstitutional removal of a public figure speaking out against republicans. It is highly convenient and will be taken advantage of by Big Ag to the fullest - and expect there to be clear favorites among Agribusiness just like when the media bent a knee to Trump and showered him with money.
The regime struggles to operate coherently, but certain elements of the regime are certainly capable of this sort of thing.
For instance, Vance has invested in the “AcreTrader” app, which is designed to take advantage of exactly this situation.
They’re stupid in every way except to grift to enrich themselves for the short term.
This has absolutely been planned, JD Vance is invested in AcreTrader and what’s a better way to buy thousand’s of acres for pennies on the dollar than to bankrupt farmers? And at the end of the day, I really don’t think they deserve a bailout.
Despite his troubles, Maxwell remains supportive of Trump, saying that he is “going to be patient,” adding, “I believe in our president.”
However, there is a limit to Maxwell’s patience with Trump. “We’re giving him the chance to follow through with the tariffs, but there had better be results,” he said. “I think we need to be seeing something in 18 months or less. We understand risk—and it had better pay off.”
They’re giving him 18 MONTHS?? For fuck sake, these people Do. Not. Learn.
It’s only 24 months. I bet it won’t even take the whole 36 months. Just a quick and easy definitely less than 48 months.
“He needs a third term…”
They didn’t recover a large part of their soy bean market during Biden’s administration where China picked back up some of the ag products and now they lost all of the market. They’re idiots if they think that this will recover any of their markets at any significant part this time around.
Once China develops a buying source they aren’t likely to ever return. Why would they?
He’s not trying to learn anything, he just wanted an excuse to kick the can down the road 18 months.
This is a farmer. Complaining about his situation now.
Unless he’s confident of a bailout, there may be no 18 months from now. wtf would he want to kick the can down the road?
What hope do we have when a leopard is eating someone’s face and their reaction is they trust the leopard and are willing to let it continue another year and a half? What does it take for them to make the connection?
They didn’t learn in his first term. No way they’ll learn anything here either. These people are completely fucking stupid and never voted for him based on any kind of intelligence.
What do they even see as a positive outcome of the tariff shenanigans?
That more Americas will… uhh… buy tofu, I guess?? Enough to make up for the entire Asia markets?
Hopefully they are thinking of the midterms…if we have elections and the GOP gets whiplashed we just might be able to stop the worst of Trump. Imagine we get say 51 democrats in the sesnate along with a majority in the house that’s healthly.
How much does Congress actually matter when we are already in a de facto dictatorship?
Congress has more power than the president, in all cases. They could revoke the national emergency powers tomorrow if they chose to. He’s only getting to play dictator because congressional republicans are abdicating their responsibilities.
That said, it need to be a massive rebuke by the voters. 22 senate republican seats are up in 2026, enough to flip to a veto proof majority - but only 2 are realistically at play.
They could try.
I seriously doubt any election at this point will be free and fair.
“So much of what has happened and what’s going on here is totally out of our control,” Meadows said. “We just want a free, fair, and open market where we can sell our goods… as competitively as anybody else around the world. And we do feel that we produce a superior product here in the United States, and we just need to have the markets.”
The Republican small government, everyone
Why do I feel like these same people would say Biden’s economy was worse for them?
“The weather is in the control of a higher power,” he added, “and the economy and the markets are in control of Washington, DC.”
Yep! Nothing at all that could have been done about either of these situations. Just two natural disasters sent by god themself. What a shame.
“Oh geez it’s not our fault, nothing could be done” they say as they overwhelming voted for Trump and said his policies would be better for them.
They learned nothing from his first term where he screwed them over by targeting immigrants and he just dialed that part up and added more.
Absolute morons.
Yeah but imagine voting for a black woman. The dem candidate could have promised them wild subsidies the likes the they never dreamed, but if it was “sleepy joe” or any other minority they disliked they still would have chosen Trump
It was in their control. They gave it up by voting against their own interests despite being told loudly
And we do feel that we produce a superior product here in the United States, and we just need to have the markets.
lol. lmao even.
Facts don’t care about your feelings bitch!
When I see why the EU has serious issues with American agricultural products, I seriously doubt that superiority.
They probably do have a “superior product” it’s just that the superiority comes from yield per acre. Not taste. Agricultural products are a massive industry in the US and bioengineering crops for higher drought tolerance and increased yield is the priority right now. The drawback to more soybean or corn or wheat per m² is nutritional density in the actual harvested product.
What I will say is that I’ve noticed a trend toward more sustainable farming practices even in the midwest where yield is your family’s livelihood. More farmers are beginning to turn to no-till planting practices, pasture rotation, ground cover planting, etc. It’s slow, but they’re getting coerced by messaging from governmental bodies and research bodies in Illinois like the Department of Natural Resources, Dept. of Agriculture, University of Illinois, etc.
Is there any american agricultural product that’s at least a whole step above dirt?
I got you.
Where not even two years before:
Of course this is fine for them.
But at least the leopards are still well-fed
Modern day leopard farmers canNOT understand why grain and soybean farmers forgot where their bootstraps are.
They wont get any sympathy from me. They voted for it and they got what was coming to them.
You got exactly what you voted for you jackasses.
Go protest, cause I’d love the farmers to be antifa.
They might even already have pitchforks
The consequences don’t just effect one side. Musk now has his own town, Starbase, Texas. Marc Andreeson isn’t far behind.
There is no being smug, the precedents will have far reaching effects.
We can set our own precedents just like we had to with company towns in the 1800s. I heard about a man named Luigi who supposedly created a similar precedent in the modern era.
all hail the mad kings
techbros reinventing monarchy
Durrrrrr I’m gonna crack down on immigrant farm labor while I add lots of tariffs to foreign food durrrrrrrrrr
Fuckers trying to make America North Korea again
MARC ANDEREESON wanted to buy up farm land in Solarno CA, for his “California Forever” private owned town.
Thiel has expressed similar.
Musk has his own corporate town (Starbase, Texas).
Bezos has an area of Malaysia.
Zuck has parts of Hawaii.
Sam Altman invests in a private town in Honduras.
…they ALL want private towns, fifedoms to rule over in America. And by rule over, I mean SETTING THEIR OWN LAWS.
This is happening.
Anyways, I’m sure this story on Trump bankrupting farmers is completely unrelated. I certainly have no evidence it’s related. But I think it’s concerning (farmers refusing to sell large tracts of America is what held up the “California Forever” project).
MARC ANDEREESON wanted to buy up farm land in Solarno CA, for his “California Forever” private owned town.
what i hear from locals (mom moved there) is he wanted to buy the dump outside town on which to build his little billionaireburg.
