The Church of Christ (Joseph Smith) gave birth to Latter Day Saint denominations, the largest of which being the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
The lutheran and catholic church are pretty buddy-buddy here in Germany. They obviously don’t see eye to eye on many things, but they consider each other Christian enough to hold services together every year.
Don’t think they’d invite the mormons even if those had significant numbers here. Might be wrong, though.
Nah, unless you want to call muslims christians as well. Once you start modifying your deity, like christians did to the jewish god, or muslims did about jesus being only a prophet, you’re a new religion. I’d say the same for when you change the basics of how you are saved (so I’d say that catholics and protestants are wildly different, seeing as catholics need confession and last rites to be forgiven or go to purgatory). Mormons hold that jesus and satan are brothers, that you need to go proselytize for a certain period of time, that there are planets instead of heaven (I guess heavenly bodies if we want to play with wording, whatever), etc.
Contrast that with the difference between methodists and baptists, or presbyterians and lutherans, where basically it’s all window dressing. You might get some proscriptions, like no dancing or drinking for baptists, but fundamentally the beliefs don’t change.
Muslims don’t believe Jesus was the son of god. Therefore, they’re not Christians. Mormons do, therefore they are Christians. That they add more stuff in later doesn’t change that fact.
Yeah, I was raised Catholic, which is basically polytheism, imo (I was taught to pray to St. Christopher for lost things and to St. Jude for cancer patients, asking them to talk to Yahweh for me, but I was also taught to pray directly to Mary, which nudges it over the line for me- that’s not even addressing the trinity issue), and that’s definitely Christian. I’ve heard some Baptists say it isn’t, but they’re just wrong and spreading antipapist propaganda, even if unintentionally.
I was also taught that there are three extant sects of Christianity: Catholicism, Orthodox Christianity, and Protestantism (edit: not sure where Coptic Christians fell, but I suspect Orthodox). Jehovah’s Witness and Mormons are technically a type of Protestant (at least according to the Catholic Church), though I get how they could feel separate (and separate from each other). Quakers, Shakers, and Unitarians are also Protestants and also feel like their own thing, but in a very different way.
Lutheran, Episcopalian, and Catholic church services/masses all feel basically the same to me, except for transubstantiation of the Eucharist, which Protestants by and large don’t believe in.
Wait, so which one are you saying isn’t Christian? Are you saying Protestants or Catholics are non-Christian? Either way, you’re wrong. Just curious where your misconception is.
Unless you insist on the Trinity doctrine being an essential definition of Christianity (which I think is dumb and lacks historical context), then Mormons are a branch of Christianity.
Mind you, there are tons of MAGA Christians who do take that stance.
Kinda, this is for the super duper extra good double stampies no erasies Mormons. When they die, they get to super Saiyan transform into a god-heir right up there with Jesus and eventually get their own planet to rule over like their god rules here.
And I’m only being a little flippant, Exaltation is a wacky belief.
This is unequivocally blasphemy of the highest order. If more people knew about this, Mormons would be viewed nearly as strangely as jehova’s witnesses
Mormons have their own book which is basically fan-fic of the bible and new testament. So it’s kinda like if you met someone who calls themselves a Trekkie, but they’ve never seen any of the shows and have only read fan-fic. Would a Trekkie accept them as one of their own?
Mormons read the Bible. They’d be Trek super-fans who think their favorite fic-writer is better than Roddenberry, but they would have watched ToS and NG at least.
Source: raised cultist. Have a Mormon “quad” of all the holy texts somewhere in storage.
Is he Christian? I thought I read his family was Mormon.
Mormons are Christians.
Technically yes they consider themselves Christian, but to all other sects they’re not. Jesus’ adventures in America are considered heresy.
All sects tend to consider other sects heresy.
The Church of Christ (Joseph Smith) gave birth to Latter Day Saint denominations, the largest of which being the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
They are Christians.
Is there some sort of sect alliance between a bunch of sects that recognize each other as true christians?
no?
The Christian label is entirely self-ascribed and generally based in faith in Christ?
Yes.
They are Christians. Lmfao.
Ooh, you used “Lmfao” like Tyler, does that mean you’re another transagender radical‽‽‽
Caught me uwu
The lutheran and catholic church are pretty buddy-buddy here in Germany. They obviously don’t see eye to eye on many things, but they consider each other Christian enough to hold services together every year.
Don’t think they’d invite the mormons even if those had significant numbers here. Might be wrong, though.
Nah, unless you want to call muslims christians as well. Once you start modifying your deity, like christians did to the jewish god, or muslims did about jesus being only a prophet, you’re a new religion. I’d say the same for when you change the basics of how you are saved (so I’d say that catholics and protestants are wildly different, seeing as catholics need confession and last rites to be forgiven or go to purgatory). Mormons hold that jesus and satan are brothers, that you need to go proselytize for a certain period of time, that there are planets instead of heaven (I guess heavenly bodies if we want to play with wording, whatever), etc.
Contrast that with the difference between methodists and baptists, or presbyterians and lutherans, where basically it’s all window dressing. You might get some proscriptions, like no dancing or drinking for baptists, but fundamentally the beliefs don’t change.
Muslims don’t believe Jesus was the son of god. Therefore, they’re not Christians. Mormons do, therefore they are Christians. That they add more stuff in later doesn’t change that fact.
Mormons see Jesus as the Messiah, their lord and savior. They have an additional prophet, but they are Christian because Christ is their savior.
Yeah, I was raised Catholic, which is basically polytheism, imo (I was taught to pray to St. Christopher for lost things and to St. Jude for cancer patients, asking them to talk to Yahweh for me, but I was also taught to pray directly to Mary, which nudges it over the line for me- that’s not even addressing the trinity issue), and that’s definitely Christian. I’ve heard some Baptists say it isn’t, but they’re just wrong and spreading antipapist propaganda, even if unintentionally.
I was also taught that there are three extant sects of Christianity: Catholicism, Orthodox Christianity, and Protestantism (edit: not sure where Coptic Christians fell, but I suspect Orthodox). Jehovah’s Witness and Mormons are technically a type of Protestant (at least according to the Catholic Church), though I get how they could feel separate (and separate from each other). Quakers, Shakers, and Unitarians are also Protestants and also feel like their own thing, but in a very different way.
Lutheran, Episcopalian, and Catholic church services/masses all feel basically the same to me, except for transubstantiation of the Eucharist, which Protestants by and large don’t believe in.
They literally consider themselves Christians.
Wait, so which one are you saying isn’t Christian? Are you saying Protestants or Catholics are non-Christian? Either way, you’re wrong. Just curious where your misconception is.
no. Faith in Christ as a God is the single defining trait of Christianity.
People lump Mormons in with Christians because they are 2/3 the same.
Unless you insist on the Trinity doctrine being an essential definition of Christianity (which I think is dumb and lacks historical context), then Mormons are a branch of Christianity.
Mind you, there are tons of MAGA Christians who do take that stance.
What makes you think that Mormons aren’t Christians?
They’re polytheistic for one, and think they can become their own god of a planet if they’re ‘good’ enough.
That sounds kinda similar to catholic saints …
Wait, I thought it was heaven, men’s heaven, men’s super heaven, and men’s super duper heaven. You’re telling me there’s a super *de duper heaven?
*Ottocorect succ
Kinda, this is for the super duper extra good double stampies no erasies Mormons. When they die, they get to super Saiyan transform into a god-heir right up there with Jesus and eventually get their own planet to rule over like their god rules here.
And I’m only being a little flippant, Exaltation is a wacky belief.
This is unequivocally blasphemy of the highest order. If more people knew about this, Mormons would be viewed nearly as strangely as jehova’s witnesses
Mormons have their own book which is basically fan-fic of the bible and new testament. So it’s kinda like if you met someone who calls themselves a Trekkie, but they’ve never seen any of the shows and have only read fan-fic. Would a Trekkie accept them as one of their own?
And how come the new testament isn’t “fan fic” of the torah?
Mormons read the Bible. They’d be Trek super-fans who think their favorite fic-writer is better than Roddenberry, but they would have watched ToS and NG at least.
Source: raised cultist. Have a Mormon “quad” of all the holy texts somewhere in storage.
Are you saying that Mormons don’t follow the Bible? Because that’s simply not true. They added to it.
Because they aren’t.