• theprogressivist @lemmy.world
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    I am sick of seeing and hearing people feeling like this guy was justified in the things he said. And I am especially tired of people saying he didn’t deserve it. Fascism is here , but we still have people defending this asshole even if “they didn’t agree with what he said.” He was okay with you and me being killed it was just part of the American way for him. He wasn’t smart, nor was he a master debater. He used fallacies as arguments, and dumbasses bought it. Fuck you NYTimes for once again suckling on the teet of fascism.

  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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    Charlie Kirk was an overt fascist.

    Fascists aren’t murdered; they only die of natural causes.

    Charlie Kirk died of natural causes.

    Side note: I’m unsurprised NYT gave a platform to one of his fellow fascists

  • Skiluros@sh.itjust.works
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    American politics has sides. There is no use pretending it doesn’t. But both sides are meant to be on the same side of a larger project — we are all, or most of us, anyway, trying to maintain the viability of the American experiment. We can live with losing an election because we believe in the promise of the next election; we can live with losing an argument because we believe that there will be another argument. Political violence imperils that.

    And if there is no next election? Keep in mind that both russia and Turkmenistan formally do have elections and the russians even have fake communist parties.

    Mind you I am not saying what one should or shouldn’t do. That’s up to every individual. But to assume that the US is immune to basic human dynamics is the height of arrogance.

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      The problem with the sides argument is that the “larger project” is a core part of it. You need both sides to work in good faith.

      I argue the right have been abusing that for the last decade to advance their agenda unscathed. They have NOT been working in good faith and we’re living in the aftermath. When your current leader keeps saying the system is rigged when he doesn’t win and advocates violence and military occupation to get what he wants it doesn’t really look like it’s working towards a “larger project”. People are jaded that the system no longer works.

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      We can live with losing an election because we believe in the promise of the next election

      How does bussing people in for J6 fit into that equation?

      Edit: was that Kirk or one of the other right wing shitheels?

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    Gee, almost every incident this author lists is a republican attacking and/or murdering a democrat. The only exception are the alleged attacks on Trump which were by, wait for it, Republican attackers, and where the attackers are not known.

    In 2022, a man broke into the home of Nancy Pelosi, speaker of the House at the time, intending to kidnap her. She was absent, but the intruder assaulted her 82-year-old husband, Paul, with a hammer, fracturing his skull.

    And what did Kirk say about this? Oh yeah,

    “Why has he not been bailed out?” Kirk said Monday on his podcast of the man who allegedly beat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi‘s husband Paul with a hammer last Friday. “By the way, if some amazing patriot out there in San Francisco or the Bay Area wants to really be a midterm hero, someone should go and bail this guy out."

    Fuck him and this author.

    P.S. I will not be surprised when this shooter also turns out to be a right wing nutjob.