The UK was caught directly participating in the operations, so they are helping a country that is not their ally commit a genocide without declaring war on Palestine themselves.
Well no they weren’t, they were “caught” flying a plane over Gaza. Going from that to “directly participating in the operations” is a conclusion you are drawing which seems plausible, even likely, but is not directly supported by a British plane doing loops over Gaza.
The UK used to run the flights themselves with their own military spy planes. They argued that this would strictly be for hostage rescue. Given that they spent hours circling Gaza daily and live-streaming any and all information to the Israelis for almost two years, a time in which not even a hand full of hostages were recovered by military means, that seems a big lie.
Now as the UK feels pressured to stop their direct involvement, they are instead paying American private contractors with UK taxpayer money, to do the dirty work for them. We now have the evidence as those were too stupid to turn their transponders off. Before that Matt Kennard could only verify multiple spy planes taking off and landing from and towards Gaza at the UK army base in Cyprus daily. But they turned off their transponders once they came close to the coast of Palestine.
Obviously Israel has allowed “sweetie” but that doesnt mean that the UK is giving them intel on how to bomb Gazans. They might be, but you cant tell if they are or not based solely on a plane flying there.
You’re right they probably just felt like flying around for the majority of the genocide in the airspace they needed to negotiate access to with no strings attached.
You honestly come off as a troll, but i know you’re probably just a UK tankie.
Its pretty funny that you’re the one reflexively assuming that because a western country is doing something it can only be the worst possible thing, and yet you’re calling me a tankie.
Whether the UK is materially contributing to the genocide in Garza or not is not sufficiently demonstrable by the evidence provided here.
I’d agree with you that in all likelihood the spy planes are a tip of the iceberg sort of thing but neither of us have evidence to prove that. Planes flying around gaza is insufficient evidence.
Is it repugnant that the uk likely knows better than most normal people what’s going on and is doing nothing to stop it? Yes. Is it deplorable that they’re clamping down on dissent about it? Yes.
Are they materially contributing to the ongoing genocide? Yeah. But that has nothing to do with a plane flying over gaza. Are they actively participating? Neither of us have any idea. Or if we do this information is not sufficient to prove it.
It’s shady as fuck. It’s worth being pissed off about. But unless someone here has evidence about what the planes are actually doing it’s just speculation.
that would almost be valid if they weren’t at war with everyone around them. they’ll just say AI said it was an Iranian plane. if that.
actually satanyahu could just come out and say “yeah we shot it because we didn’t like the way it looked, so be more careful next time you tea-gargling cuntbags” and nothing would change.
Israel is a colonialist project and the colonialists will support it no matter what. they’ll happily sacrifice their own people to keep it up.
You intentionally misunderstanding the situation is not working here.
You understand the difference between a journalist reporting to a global news agency and the UK military feeding secret surveillance data to another military that they are not publicly helping.
I never said journalists. The UK military could be feeding intelligence to the Israeli military or they could be independently verifying statements from Israel. Someone with a camera in Gaza could be reporting on war in Gaza or could be feeding Israeli intelligence.
All we see is a UK military aircraft flying in circles over Gaza (probably) taking in areal intelligence. That is such a far cry away from evidence of the UK’s involvement in the genocide in Gaza.
The genocide would be the war crime.
The UK was caught directly participating in the operations, so they are helping a country that is not their ally commit a genocide without declaring war on Palestine themselves.
Well no they weren’t, they were “caught” flying a plane over Gaza. Going from that to “directly participating in the operations” is a conclusion you are drawing which seems plausible, even likely, but is not directly supported by a British plane doing loops over Gaza.
Yeah the conspiracy tinfoil hat here is really reaching. X.com us such a cancer platform that I don’t expec4 any brain cells there.
But the twit says it’s a us company that does this. For Israel. How is the UK even involved?
The UK used to run the flights themselves with their own military spy planes. They argued that this would strictly be for hostage rescue. Given that they spent hours circling Gaza daily and live-streaming any and all information to the Israelis for almost two years, a time in which not even a hand full of hostages were recovered by military means, that seems a big lie.
Now as the UK feels pressured to stop their direct involvement, they are instead paying American private contractors with UK taxpayer money, to do the dirty work for them. We now have the evidence as those were too stupid to turn their transponders off. Before that Matt Kennard could only verify multiple spy planes taking off and landing from and towards Gaza at the UK army base in Cyprus daily. But they turned off their transponders once they came close to the coast of Palestine.
EDIT: See for instance
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/defence/article/gaza-spying-us-news-lp90mz062
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250808-us-based-contractor-hired-by-uk-to-continue-spy-flights-over-gaza/
Oh honey…
You know that isn’t true :/
The Israli military wouldn’t allow a UK military plane to do that if they weren’t in on it.
It’s not the UK’s air space
Obviously Israel has allowed “sweetie” but that doesnt mean that the UK is giving them intel on how to bomb Gazans. They might be, but you cant tell if they are or not based solely on a plane flying there.
You’re right they probably just felt like flying around for the majority of the genocide in the airspace they needed to negotiate access to with no strings attached.
You honestly come off as a troll, but i know you’re probably just a UK tankie.
Its pretty funny that you’re the one reflexively assuming that because a western country is doing something it can only be the worst possible thing, and yet you’re calling me a tankie.
Whether the UK is materially contributing to the genocide in Garza or not is not sufficiently demonstrable by the evidence provided here.
I’d agree with you that in all likelihood the spy planes are a tip of the iceberg sort of thing but neither of us have evidence to prove that. Planes flying around gaza is insufficient evidence.
Is it repugnant that the uk likely knows better than most normal people what’s going on and is doing nothing to stop it? Yes. Is it deplorable that they’re clamping down on dissent about it? Yes.
Are they materially contributing to the ongoing genocide? Yeah. But that has nothing to do with a plane flying over gaza. Are they actively participating? Neither of us have any idea. Or if we do this information is not sufficient to prove it.
It’s shady as fuck. It’s worth being pissed off about. But unless someone here has evidence about what the planes are actually doing it’s just speculation.
There are plenty of countries that spy on wars they’re not directly participating in.
Israel does a lot of things, but I don’t think they would shoot down a UK military aircraft over Gaza.
lol why not? what happens then? same thing that happens if they shoot UK aid workers?
Not exactly, it’s a lot harder to claim “my bad” when Hamas doesn’t have an air force
that would almost be valid if they weren’t at war with everyone around them. they’ll just say AI said it was an Iranian plane. if that.
actually satanyahu could just come out and say “yeah we shot it because we didn’t like the way it looked, so be more careful next time you tea-gargling cuntbags” and nothing would change.
Israel is a colonialist project and the colonialists will support it no matter what. they’ll happily sacrifice their own people to keep it up.
No real response because we’re pretty deep into hypothetical territory, just wanted to let you know I didn’t downvote you lol.
lol at first i read that as “hypocritical” and thought wtf… fair enough.
Ok now we’re pretending the UK got away with illegally trespassing another country’s air space with military craft and nobody complained about it?
Keep moving the bar lol
By that logic anyone recording video in Gaza is participating in genocide by publishing video online that would be analysed by Israeli intelligence.
If that someone were being paid to record video by intelligence agencies to analyse, as is the case here, then yes.
You intentionally misunderstanding the situation is not working here.
You understand the difference between a journalist reporting to a global news agency and the UK military feeding secret surveillance data to another military that they are not publicly helping.
I never said journalists. The UK military could be feeding intelligence to the Israeli military or they could be independently verifying statements from Israel. Someone with a camera in Gaza could be reporting on war in Gaza or could be feeding Israeli intelligence.
All we see is a UK military aircraft flying in circles over Gaza (probably) taking in areal intelligence. That is such a far cry away from evidence of the UK’s involvement in the genocide in Gaza.
You literally refrenced journalists who post the truth online
Bad faith lazy troll.
Blocked
that makes no sense
By your logic you’re a war criminal by talking about it. Off to The Hague with you, dipshit.
By the post’s logic as well.
Brother do you want to rethink that logic? Maybe try a different argument? This one’s busted.