• balderdash@lemmy.zip
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    US foreign policy has been terrible for generations. It’s shit like this that makes me scream “BOTH SIDES”, but our two party system always makes people stick to their team.

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      Both sides, yes, but one side is still WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY worse than the other.

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        Hesitant as I am to open this can of worms, this always strikes me as saying something like “My manager is way nicer than the HR department. They’re the only people who have ever fired anyone”

        Like, I guess it is true in a sense? But they are the same. It’s not that one is worse or better. One is the designated executor of the intentions that they both share. This allows the executor to look worse, for the exact purpose of maintaining morale among the team and keeping them playing by the manager’s rules.

        It’s like, if both my mom and my dad think that I should be beaten for lying about my grades, and they both secretly decide that mom should be the one to beat me. Is dad way better than mom? Not really. Mom is just doing the dirty work so Dad can keep his hands clean. Then when I get beat I don’t decide to run away, because I think “at least Dad isn’t so bad, at least Dad doesn’t beat me”. But Dad does beat me in any sense that matters, he just beats me via the proxy of Mom. You could even say Dad is worse, because he’s not only complicit in the beating, but he also conceals his true nature to prevent me from escaping the situation.

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          What’s missing from your analogy is that if you try to run away and fail, your mom will beat you even more - and both your parents spent their whole lives rigging the house so you wouldn’t get away. And if you manage to, any other person you talk to in the street will turn out to be an undercover security officer who will take you back to the house.

          It is 100% a hostage situation - you either let them have their way and accept a miserable life, or they force their way and you live a miserable and painful life.

          Of course the ideal solution is to get away. But how? Simply trying to walk out the front door every 4 years is not really working.

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            You get all your siblings to band together and beat mom and dad’s ass. Organization is the only way to defeat tyranny from the inside.

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        Not all that much on this issue. They’re both maximum bad. Neither Biden nor starmer is worse than the conservatives on this issue. Empty gestures aside. Obviously the Republicans and Torries are fucking cunts, I presume I can say that on Lemmy here.

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      our two party system always makes people stick to their team

      If you support the liberal ideology then Republicans will bend over backwards to destroy your municipal infrastructure, impoverish your neighborhoods, and send in the police to beat, imprison, and kill your children largely out of bigotry and spite.

      If you support the conservative ideology then Democrats will continue feeding bits of your corner of the country into a giant Wall Street shaped de-industrialization meat grinder while half-heartedly waving an LGBTQ flag. Then they’ll call you racist for telling them to stop. Also, they send in the police to beat, imprison, and kill your children. Not because you’re conservative. Just because cops need something to do with all their free time.

      Idk about you, but I can’t be a part of one of these systems. It’s unconscionable! So I need to be a member of the other.