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    Dems again failing to see the forest for the trees. It’s not their language people find objectionable, it’s that they use this language and do fucking nothing to make it seem like they understand why this language has been elevated.

    For example, if you ran on a platform of making housing an entitlement, and had a clear vision for reaching that goal, no one would give a shit if you said “houseless person” instead of “homeless person”. Hell, if you got everyone in this country housed I don’t think anyone would be too mad what you called them.

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    Several of these are the kind of rhetorical substitutes we got in lieu of any systemic change.

    Liberals: “Yeah we might not be able to give you real support but we can give you lip service. Wait, hang on, guess we can’t do the lip service anymore.”

    Meanwhile chuds hooting and hollering over this kind of shit because they believe in what is probably best described as a stupid kind of magic and believe these words are imbued with confusing and terrifying energies.

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      stupid kind of magic and believe these words are imbued with confusing and terrifying energies.

      I never thought of it quite that way. But now that you’ve mentioned it - they really do seem to think that their dog whistle words are highly negative sympathetic magic. In other words if a liberal says “DEI” enough times - a black person might suddenly appear in the chud’s all-white workplace.

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    I mean, on one hand I can sympathize with ideas like learning to de-jargon our language when speaking with non-leftists.

    But not in a tailism way, because these pains are almost intuitive to anyone who has ever faced any discrimination…like ever. I never heard of the phrase “reserve army of labor” but I’ve been muscled out of the job market and struggled with getting jobs even before I learned what that term was.

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    So obviously Third Way is evil in general and this list is evil specifically, but the idea of blacklisting the phrases “food insecurity” and “housing insecurity” is such a baffling, ludicrous assertion, way beyond the bargain bin chud shit that a lot of this is.

    Also, “stakeholder” blacklisted? What??? So not only can we not talk about the consequences of capitalism, we can’t even describe a formal classification of relationships capitalists have to companies using a word that any economist or journalist would use?

    Are we not allowed to call a CEO a CEO anymore because it will be taken as a death threat? luigi-dance

    So much for the tolerant right, always censoring us.

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      Also, “stakeholder” blacklisted? What??? So not only can we not talk about the consequences of capitalism, we can’t even describe a formal classification of relationships capitalists have to companies using a word that any economist or journalist would use?

      IIRC stakeholder the way they use it is a fairly new propaganda term (less than 6 years old, I’d say) which is meant to be distinct from shareholders. “Stakeholder capitalism” was another buzzword for a while, where stakeholders are like the people in a community being poisoned by runoff and pollution from the poison factory.

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        Stakeholders are different from shareholders, but it’s still a regular term in economics:

        https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/stakeholder.asp

        Specifically, stakeholder is a supercategory of shareholder. If they meant just the “activist” language, then they could specify like they do with “violence” later, but looking at the article it seems they offer no such specification. It’s perfectly possible that these “Third Way” authors are such fools that they forgot it’s a new use of an existing term that their corporate overlords hold dear, though.

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          they definitely just want to banish the idea that communities and government regulators have stakes in private projects, because that implies they should be able to have a say

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    “We are doing our best to get Democrats to talk like normal people and stop talking like they’re leading a seminar at Antioch,” says Matt Bennett, Third Way’s executive vice president of public affairs.

    The reason they don’t sound like normal human beings isn’t that they’re using precise and academic languages to describe the condition of minorities, you dimwitted animal. They aren’t proper human beings, so they can’t talk properly.

    As I write that, I know this removed knows this is hermeneutical injustice. They don’t want marginalised groups to have the terms to describe their oppression. The sad part is how many of those marginalised actually bought into their relatively short-lived theatre of giving a shit.

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        After the last Usian election, I’ve come to believe that democrats are very much living in an alternate universe, especially if they spend enough time in DC. Between the blood on their hands, the consultants, charities etc where they are and their own astroturfing, they couldn’t live in reality if they wanted to.

        • You have to be. Imagine what being at the head of something of the US empire has to be like.

          It’s like the adage of how being a billionaire is a cognitive impairment similar to being repeatedly kicked in the head by a horse.

          Their material reality shapes peoples thinking. These people do not live in the same world as us.

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      My favorite moment from the presidential debate was Harris saying, “I believe climate change is an existential threat” and then almost immediately afterward talking going on about how awesome she thinks fracking is.

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    HAHA vulgar and reactionary tailism as always! I expect nothing less from Third Way. Oh btw if you think this is fucked up you are engaging in purity politics and you are the reason fascism is winning

    “The Democratic Party brand is toxic across the country at this point with way too many people — enough that there’s no way for us to win a governing majority without changing that,” Erickson said. “Part of the problem was that we were using words that literally no normal people used — that we were sticking to messages that were so overly scripted that they basically sounded like nothing.”

    People are going to correctly identify that your messages of justice are vapid if you do exactly nothing to actually meaningfully change things for the better and stymie any real efforts to that effect

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      enough that there’s no way for us to win a governing majority without changing that

      I hate that this is the biggest clue in this thread as to which party is being discussed. This is indistinguishable from your average chuds in the current admin except that they actually win by doing this stuff

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    Once again taking the wrong message. Yet Repubs roll back rights and both parties committ genocide and that is NEVER described as toxic. Smithsonian will remove history of slavery and soon history will be seen as toxic language because too many americans suck off an anti reality doomsday cult

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      I’m glad I saw the Smithsonian Museum of America Museum and Smithsonian African American Museum while I could. They were really good, but now will probably be sabotaged with lies and propaganda.

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    Oh cool, reminds me when in Germany’s last general election the only “progressive”, “leftist” party, Die Linke, told its deputies not to address issues such as migration, because it’s too risky. Well…

  • Looks like they are starting to read the room, and in usual lib shit they read the wrong lesson.

    They realized that when you run a progressive except for Palestine stance, you look like a massive hypocritical piece of shit and everyone can tell your full of shit. So they dropped the progressive part and kept the pro genocide stance.

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    if gavin newsom says the n word enough times maybe he’ll be able to steal all the voters from david duke in 2028