“Wow, what happened?”
This genuinely made my day
This is like a funnier, more sitcom version of a story I once heard of a latin american person who was brutally tortured by the police for suspected communism (because he was poor and indigenous I think?), and after being fucked with and tortured he basically become a communist for real out of spite.
When people make it very clear that they are your enemies and also make it clear which of their own enemies they are most afraid of, that is a very good argument for joining the second group.
I had a similar experience the first time I got harassed for allegedly being a communist, because someone in a position of limited power wanted to make trouble for me…
I’d heard of Marx, but never been interested in reading his work, but I had no idea who Lenin was, when I was brought down to the front office of my school, to be asked some questions by some guys from the district. They asked whether I was a communist, I told them I had no idea what a commie was, besides that we beat them in the Cold War. They asked if I’d read Lenin, and I told them I’d never heard of him. They asked if I could point them to any of my classmates to ask the same questions to, I told them that there are no commies in this tiny little Catholic school and they’re wasting their time questioning us.
I didn’t actually read any theory right after that, that took a lot more time and a few more nasty incidents, but I did find out who Lenin was and learn a lot more about communism than I’d known before that incident, so.
I’m sorry you had to go through that, but it’s so funny to do McCarthyism on kids in a Catholic school, especially when there aren’t any communists.
Newest episode of “Weird Little Guys” just came out a few days ago and she tells this exact same story. He was such a communist he didn’t even know who Marx was.
The anticommunist action/red scare stuff really did a number on any truly “left” movement in the U.S. and is a large part of why we’re here.
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Cool, I saw this before but didn’t realize this was Zohrans dad
he just died? you’re telling me now for the first timeMarx died? I didnt even know he was sick!
This could conceivably be an Archduke Franz Ferdinand moment.
I read this before and did not make the mamdani connection. Guess we know where Zohran got his quick wit
Well, poor people shouldn’t be poor, he wrote
Damn sounds good sign me up!
Um, y-you’re supposed to agree with US and NOT him
Imagine how evil you have to be if that’s how you would sum up Marx and consider it something you need to fight
common thread for any type of police officer anywhere tbh. I’ll say you can sign up for that kind of job out of idealism but give it like 5+ years or so on the force at some point you have to square the circle. Either you adopt the ideals you enforce or alternatively you’re so much of a nihilist you figure your job is to be a mercenary to inflict violence on behalf of orders above for pay. What else are you gonna do to be able to sleep at night?
even when i was told the wrong definition of communism in school (“its when everyone is equal”) i was like yeah thats awesome?
lmao that’s like when my 4th. grade teacher gave me The Giver to read and I was like “Wow this sounds based if we just don’t do the eugenics part. Organizing the economy? Community events? Sign me up!”
The Giver is about communism? I thought it was just teen dystopian dreck with no political relevance like Divergent or Maze Runner or whatever. Granted, I have read none of the three.
The Giver is supposed to be an Animal Farm/1984 anti-communist book for kids, yeah. Everyone is assigned families, jobs, and homes by the government, made to conform with everyone else, and is given drugs to suppress their sexuality, along with being made colorblind.
The main character is a boy (Jonas) who is born with a partial ability to see color and he gets assigned to the career “receiver of memory” and he will be trained by a “giver of memory.” A giver is someone who carries memories of the past and can magically transfer those memories to someone else as long as they have the genetics. The current giver is getting old and needs a replacement, so Jonas is given this task. The memories are everything from color to snow sleds to what it’s like to break bones to battlefields of dying soldiers.
Another thing in the book is people are “released.” This is never explained to any of the characters what this actually means, so they think it means being sent to another community or exiled into the wilderness. Jonas finds out it means being executed. People who break rules, babies that don’t have proper genetics or are excess population, etc. are all “released.”
Jonas finds out it means being executed. People who break rules, babies that don’t have proper genetics or are excess population, etc. are all “released.”
I’m so happy we don’t have anything like that in capitalist society.
Really furthers my belief that a lot of these natsec freaks aren’t especially bright
Managed to accidentally radicalize someone they were probably suspecting of being a communist by using a (for them) particularly stupid choice of words
Cause and effect isn’t exactly their strong suit, though in some cases maybe a little manufacturing an enemy you can box in easily to keep funding going.
hands out a communist reading list
“Have you ever read any of these? No? Keep it that way.”Maybe this is how we get people to read theory
I mean, this would absolutely work on nonconformists who break rules for the sake of breaking rules, and kids/teenagers. Want a kid, or someone with a childish mindset, to study something, the best way is to convince them they’re not supposed to and they’re getting away with something. Use that on people with demand avoidance tendencies or who break rules to break rules, and use “the government doesn’t want you to read this” to reach a broader group. But yeah, if you want to get teenagers reading ML theory, this would probably work better than anything a lot of young commies are doing to radicalise peers…
It’s the same marketing genius saying “your electric comoany doesn’t want you plugging this 39-cent-BOM magic-beans box in” or “buy generic boner pills online with this lEgAl LoOpHoLe”…
except they’re making bank.So I guess it would work.
To use this exact tactic, we’d have to hand out theory as “the government doesn’t want you to read this”, but that would absolutely work. Especially in places where current public trust in government is at an all time low.
Impersonating feds to hand out theory (in gmod rp servers ofc) would be insanely based
Probably. On the other hand they do like radicalizing people so they can use them as an excuse to outlaw or further surveil or attack organizations so it’s not impossible they were really hoping to paint MLK with the communist brush and if they had to literally turn people into communists around him to get that to work they were quite willing to do so. Hoover in particular was desperate for it so absolutely wouldn’t have been beyond trying to create some communists if it meant giving him more ammo to take down the civil rights movement and MLK.
I guess they need to secure their job security somehow.
Okay what are you offering then, will I still be poor?
Yes, you’re still going to be poor but the already rich will get richer, great deal huh?
I don’t follow…
Why did I read “dead” instead of “dad”
Rorschach’d the title too hard
“he’s dead”
“I didn’t even know he was sick”
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I remember this from when he was on Chapo back in Feb.
Sorry for the naive question, is this really from Zohran’s dad?
He’s got a Wikipedia page. The Reading Fanon blogspot did the interview where he said this.
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i’ve definitely read this before, though i don’t remember who the subject was
I saw it a while ago before he got popular so I’m thinking not but I don’t know where it’s from.
It was posted to Hexbear 5 months ago, likening Fuad Nassar’s introduction to communism from British authorities to Mahmood Mamdani’s introduction to Marx from an FBI interrogation.
Fuad Nassar, the great Palestinian communist, became a communist in Iraq, when the British authorities accused him of being a communist, even though he’d never heard of communism before. “Communism must be good if it pisses you so much,” he told them. And then became a communist.
