I think it’s the Dresden Files mythology? But I always liked the premise that it’s not the house that prevents them. It’s the magic of a home. They could walk into some house a squatter is living in for a few days with no issues, but a home where people truly live make it their own, have families, memories…that’s what gives the threshold power.
IIRC, even in that universe, a vampire can force it’s way in, but the threshold strips it of most of its power if not invited.
It would be such a Dresden type loophole to use that with the cliche of “home is wherever you are”, and have someone believe that strongly enough to make the other person a living vampire repellent.
Upon further consideration and two drinks, I deand Hollywood use this as the twist ending to give Blade the love interest they’re going to force in no matter what in the reboot.
Then in the sequel he sells out and gets a fancy new Batcave Crypt(?) funeded by some asshole who turns out to be the villain.
And Blade’s conviction falters and it breaks her protection just long enough to get her tragically killed, setting up therevenge plot for the third movie.
God wqhy am I not a screenwriter. It’s not good, but it would sell.
Okay so then in Blade 3 its bsically Blade goign John Wick on some vampires until he finds out the vamp who killed his love is now part of a cult tying to smmon a demon.Then at the climax of the movie he has to choose betoween getting his revenge and stopping the summoning. and Blade is too driven by fury and he goes for revenge. So cliffhanger ending, the demon pops out of a portal. folloed by…
JOHN CONSTANTINE!
THAT’S RIGHT BIGHTCHES, BLADE 4 IS A BACKDOOR MARVEL/DC CROSSOVER!
I doubt that this would affect vampires at all. The rule is that they can’t enter your house without being invited, not that they have to move if you build a house around them.
Wait but if building a tent around it doesn’t kill them, which I agree with, it means that they would be allowed in if the domicile was formed around them without their knowing.
So by that logic, do Vampires get squatters rights?
If they get into a domicile not knowing there is an owner, then the owner arrives, are they ejected or are they allowed to stay? What if you build your house on top of the entrance to their tomb? Are they forced to ask permission to leave their tomb and thus enter your domicile?
Maybe they’re just paralyzed? I like the lore implications of that. Could be a run plot device to kick off a “why Dracula’s been gone for the last 200 years and suddenly popped up again”
I could just see a division of a larger vampire hunting organization calling themselves “The Campers” who’s whole mission is to find vampires and set up a tent over their resting places.
Hey, I’m an amateur vampirologist. Feel free to tell me to go F myself if you disagree, but here are my thoughts.
In most media I’ve seen it’s not the property line, it’s specifically the house.
Subletting leads to an interesting conundrum that I’ll have to explore more but on its face I think it checks out. I also think it’s very silly and would love to see a work that explored this.
As I understand it, you’d have to build them pretty close together so it couldn’t escape, especially if it can turn into mist or fly, but theoretically I think that would work too if you could build fast enough.
Imagine a vampire getting frustrated with a realtor because this is the fourth time they’ve arrived at a house they’re interested in to do a walkthrough but the owners aren’t home and the realtor, as someone who doesn’t have ties to the memories created in that home, can’t invite him in.
This also has fascinating implications for house flippers. If you only live there while working on it, have you not amassed enough “home power” to keep vampires out? Does the power of your previous home follow you to a new address if it’s mostly the same decor?
We could then use vampires to determine who owns a house, if a house is abandoned for a while and there are squatters.
the squaters and legal owner invite vampires in, if the legal owner vampire cant, he looses the right to the house, if the squatter’s vamp cant get in, they get evicted.
could you wear a tent like that and vampires would be unable to bite you?
I feel like they can’t enter your house, as in get their entire body over the threshold. But there’s no magical forcefield over the doorway, so if you were standing within arms reach they could grab you. The tent thing is kind of a moot point though, as there’s nothing preventing them from attacking a domicile, so they could just tear it or even just poke you with a pointed stick.
At it’s core a house is an inhabited building. I think an occupied outhouse might work even, if you stuck a much of them together with the vampire in the middle. I’m envisioning like a 3x3 porta potty cube with a vampire in the center one.
But yeah I think there would have to at least be a person in each one
I think the spell is based around trust, the vampire has to convince you to trust them enough (either through charm or trickery) to invite them into your private living space. I think an outhouse would work since there’s a major expectation of privacy there.
I think a warrant would help the vampire convince people to trust them (a judge trusted them to execute their court order) but probably wouldn’t be enough on it’s own. Because it’s not about convincing someone else to say it’s ok to enter your home, they have to convince you to give them permission. But the vampire could say “I have been ordered by the court to search your house, may I come in?” They’d have to wait until you’ve read the warrant, maybe call your lawyer, and your lawyer would tell you that you have to let them in. Then you’d likely give permission to the vampire to enter your house because your lawyer told you to. Because lawyers are just another kind of blood sucker, aren’t they?
if you surround the earth in a megastructure shaped like a house do all vampires on earth instantly die?
I think it’s the Dresden Files mythology? But I always liked the premise that it’s not the house that prevents them. It’s the magic of a home. They could walk into some house a squatter is living in for a few days with no issues, but a home where people truly live make it their own, have families, memories…that’s what gives the threshold power.
IIRC, even in that universe, a vampire can force it’s way in, but the threshold strips it of most of its power if not invited.
It would be such a Dresden type loophole to use that with the cliche of “home is wherever you are”, and have someone believe that strongly enough to make the other person a living vampire repellent.
Upon further consideration and two drinks, I deand Hollywood use this as the twist ending to give Blade the love interest they’re going to force in no matter what in the reboot.
Then in the sequel he sells out and gets a fancy new
BatcaveCrypt(?) funeded by some asshole who turns out to be the villain.And Blade’s conviction falters and it breaks her protection just long enough to get her tragically killed, setting up therevenge plot for the third movie.
God wqhy am I not a screenwriter. It’s not good, but it would sell.
Okay so then in Blade 3 its bsically Blade goign John Wick on some vampires until he finds out the vamp who killed his love is now part of a cult tying to smmon a demon.Then at the climax of the movie he has to choose betoween getting his revenge and stopping the summoning. and Blade is too driven by fury and he goes for revenge. So cliffhanger ending, the demon pops out of a portal. folloed by…
JOHN CONSTANTINE!
THAT’S RIGHT BIGHTCHES, BLADE 4 IS A BACKDOOR MARVEL/DC CROSSOVER!
I doubt that this would affect vampires at all. The rule is that they can’t enter your house without being invited, not that they have to move if you build a house around them.
Well by that logic, if you found a vampire’s lair /tomb while they slept, and then three a tent over it, wouldn’t that cause them to die?
I’m def of the opinion its all about entering a building (not necessarily about being in one).
Wait but if building a tent around it doesn’t kill them, which I agree with, it means that they would be allowed in if the domicile was formed around them without their knowing.
So by that logic, do Vampires get squatters rights?
If they get into a domicile not knowing there is an owner, then the owner arrives, are they ejected or are they allowed to stay? What if you build your house on top of the entrance to their tomb? Are they forced to ask permission to leave their tomb and thus enter your domicile?
I think that they wouldn’t be able to enter regardless of whether someone was home and they would know when they noticed they couldn’t do so.
I don’t think it’s based on knowledge, I think they would be prevented from entering regardless
Maybe they’re just paralyzed? I like the lore implications of that. Could be a run plot device to kick off a “why Dracula’s been gone for the last 200 years and suddenly popped up again”
I could just see a division of a larger vampire hunting organization calling themselves “The Campers” who’s whole mission is to find vampires and set up a tent over their resting places.
wait
is property lines the same as a house?
can you sublet a room on your house and hide there?
can you surround a vampire with houses and he cannot escape?
Hey, I’m an amateur vampirologist. Feel free to tell me to go F myself if you disagree, but here are my thoughts.
In most media I’ve seen it’s not the property line, it’s specifically the house.
Subletting leads to an interesting conundrum that I’ll have to explore more but on its face I think it checks out. I also think it’s very silly and would love to see a work that explored this.
As I understand it, you’d have to build them pretty close together so it couldn’t escape, especially if it can turn into mist or fly, but theoretically I think that would work too if you could build fast enough.
i won’t tell you to fuck yourselves, I’ll do it myself …
next questions
a cave can be a house, can a vampire enter a uninhabited cave, but if next day someone moves in, will the vampire be unable to enter?
if a vampire inherits a house, no one formally invited him in, could he enter, as he is the legal owner and therefore only need his invitation?
do tents count as housing? what about this:
could you wear a tent like that and vampires would be unable to bite you?
Imagine a vampire getting frustrated with a realtor because this is the fourth time they’ve arrived at a house they’re interested in to do a walkthrough but the owners aren’t home and the realtor, as someone who doesn’t have ties to the memories created in that home, can’t invite him in.
This also has fascinating implications for house flippers. If you only live there while working on it, have you not amassed enough “home power” to keep vampires out? Does the power of your previous home follow you to a new address if it’s mostly the same decor?
We could then use vampires to determine who owns a house, if a house is abandoned for a while and there are squatters.
the squaters and legal owner invite vampires in, if the legal owner vampire cant, he looses the right to the house, if the squatter’s vamp cant get in, they get evicted.
So the legal owner loses the deed and the squatters evacuate.
Now the state gets an extra house.
if thats the case, that means no one was the trully living there, so it’s better to open it for someone else rather than leave it vacant.
(if the squatters really lived there instead of just crashing there for a couple nights then they would have gotten there house)
I feel like they can’t enter your house, as in get their entire body over the threshold. But there’s no magical forcefield over the doorway, so if you were standing within arms reach they could grab you. The tent thing is kind of a moot point though, as there’s nothing preventing them from attacking a domicile, so they could just tear it or even just poke you with a pointed stick.
does that mean that a vampire doesn’t need permission to enter a house if he rents a bulldozer?
I feel like this is both correct and opens a hole in most vampire films. Vamps should have been burning down homes to get at the people.
I don’t see why not. Otherwise they wouldn’t be able to bomb a structure either.
vampire war criminals, hope the ICC does something about it
BRB writing a new movie about a vampire airbnb guest
But wouldn’t someone have to be living in the houses? I feel like empty buildings wouldn’t work.
At it’s core a house is an inhabited building. I think an occupied outhouse might work even, if you stuck a much of them together with the vampire in the middle. I’m envisioning like a 3x3 porta potty cube with a vampire in the center one.
But yeah I think there would have to at least be a person in each one
I think the spell is based around trust, the vampire has to convince you to trust them enough (either through charm or trickery) to invite them into your private living space. I think an outhouse would work since there’s a major expectation of privacy there.
I think a warrant would help the vampire convince people to trust them (a judge trusted them to execute their court order) but probably wouldn’t be enough on it’s own. Because it’s not about convincing someone else to say it’s ok to enter your home, they have to convince you to give them permission. But the vampire could say “I have been ordered by the court to search your house, may I come in?” They’d have to wait until you’ve read the warrant, maybe call your lawyer, and your lawyer would tell you that you have to let them in. Then you’d likely give permission to the vampire to enter your house because your lawyer told you to. Because lawyers are just another kind of blood sucker, aren’t they?
I 100% agree, the warrant alone wouldn’t be enough
I wonder how this would interact with, say, Manhattan’s Eruv—a wire used by some Jews to demark a private space.
This and lucky horseshoe or salt lines can repel
Jews Invent Eruv traditions to be safe from vampires.