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As someone from the south I was 100% for this, but now I live in the north and I can kinda see it. But I’ll never forgive summer for being a hot and humid bastard for most of my life.
❌hot girl summer
✅cold bitch winter
The fame came from a time where the winters were harsh and summers more bland. We are at the tail end of a mini ice age, now the tendency is to winters been suave and summers become hotter. And, with global warming, things are accelerated.
You’d have to go back to the 19th century for those non-fossil carbon dioxide variations to matter.
The notion of nice summers is way older than that, probably.
I heard there’s 104 days of summer vacation, til school comes along just to end it.
That’s a lot of days. It’s hard for us all to find a good way to spend it.
I don’t understand this, if I didn’t have to work for >100 days, I’d have a blast! Our summer break starts a bit earlier than most places (end of May) and school starts a bit earlier than many places (middle of August), and we have already visited the pool multiple times, visited family across the country, done some hikes, and done some bike rides. The rest of the summer is busy as well, with visiting the other side of the family next month, celebrating Independence Day (I’m in the US), and doing some camping trips.
If you can’t fill 3-ish months of free time, that’s on you. I, for one, am going to make sure I and my kids enjoy it.
It’s the Phineas and Ferb theme song. They also have lots of great ideas for filling the time. Sounds like you’re rocking it!
more like 104° days until summer ends
It’s all situational. If it’s hot and humid but I’m near a beach, fuck yes, summer rules. If it’s hot and humid and I’m in a big city, dear lord help me, summer sucks.
Also, I live in the north, so my options are:
- winter - frigid weather where the roads are an ice rink
- spring - fluctuates between cold (random snow storm) and hot, like a woman going through menopause (i.e. one day nearly 100F, the next day there’s snow)
- summer - pretty consistently hot
- fall - random storms, school starting (I have kids), and an intro to the aforementioned ice-rink
So yeah, summer is pretty decent, given the other options.
I mean, summer is different than it was 50 years ago. It’s hotter, longer, and dryer.
Less rain but more humidity
Not in my area (Utah), we don’t know anything about this “humidity” thing you speak of. Even our snow is dry.
And I don’t get to stop going to work every day.
I like heat under my own circumstances, summer is definitely not one of them
Winter too cold: Oh no, I guess I’ll put on some fuzzy socks and drink some chamomile tea
Summer too hot: Guess I’ll go to the fuckin ER for heat stroke
So very true. Dressing for cold is so much easier than heat it’s mindboggling to read some of these summer fan comments. Like, do you guys actually live on the same planet as I do? Cause this one sucks the minute temperatures go past 20c.
Some folks just tolerate extreme temps differently. I am nearly impervious to heat, but begin hating life below 10C.
It really depends on the climate you’re used to living in, the winters here are in the -20c range and yesterday it was 41c. I’m basically happy as long as it doesn’t get within 10c of the extremes.
Tell med you live far away from the coast without telling me. Also i sympathize
You ever looked at a stock image search of “Arab guy in desert” and wondered why they are wearing all that clothing?
It’s pretty easily explained and you can find reasons and anecdotes on YouTube, etc! Garments can do an effective job of keeping solar radiation off of you and regulate temperature! Obviously, culture and religion play a part as well
Yeah I was hinting at that lmao. “Getting naked isn’t the only or the best option for summer.”
People only say summer is good because we used to get 2 months off during it
This absolutely. Also summer didn’t use to feel like an inner circle of hell 30 years ago.
False
All 4 seasons are the worst season
4 seasons
Lol, what year is it, 2005?
You will have two seasons and you will like it!
Hey, we have four:
- winter - random snow storms
- spring - mixed snow and 100F weather
- summer - 100F all summer long
- fall - crazy wind storms, w/ occasional snow storms
They’re all more extreme versions of what we had in 2005.
As someone who loves hotter days, hard disagree.
It didn’t used to be as bad as it is today a short while ago. It will continue to be worser for the rest of our lives.
No one is talking about autumn? We have splash of color everywhere, Less bugs, comfy clothes, moderate temp and moderate lighting.
I usually just have allergies throughout.
For a certain definition of PR, this is true. Most of the cultural associations of the seasons come from ‘classic’ literature, most of which, in the English-speaking world, came from England and New England. How many places in the Southern US actually get a leaf colour change in fall? The cultural touchstones defining the associations of seasons were written in places where the winters are dreary and cold and summers are a bit hot sometimes but not usually too horrible, and certainly not likely to kill you. Try telling someone living in the South of the US that summer is the best season, see how many warning shots they fire past your nose.
I’ve lived in the south. I’ll take the 100+F days with high humidity. You know why? Because the heat doesn’t hurt. It will make you uncomfortable as fuck because of sweat and lethargy, you might get a sunburn, which hurts later, and it can kill you over time, but it doesn’t hurt. Cold fucking hurts like a bitch. In the summer, I can finish mucking the horse stalls and herding the cows, then head inside and take a shower. Instantly all the uncomfortable heat and its byproduct of sweat/grime is gone. The AC and a little air movement make the heat dissipate in moments. In the winter, I have to head inside and sit by the fireplace or in the shower/bath until the warmth actually makes it down to my bones, because they are aching from the cold, and that can take bloody hours.
Spring is obviously still the best season, but summer is far from the worst.
Depends on where you are. Miserable in hotter places I’m sure, but in Sweden it’s quite honestly glorious. Sun up from 03:30 to 22 in Stockholm, and it never quite gets dark. Does wonders for your mood.
Winter, however, is a cold, dark and wet mess. Truly depressive.
Spring and autumn are alright, but suffer from just a little bit too much rain.
Naturally, the climate crisis is making things slightly too warm for comfort now, and we’re going to have to retrofit all homes to withstand heat better before too long.
Winter, however, is a cold, dark and wet mess. Truly depressive.
Anyone saying summer ‘only has good pr’ doesn’t have winters like that.
I see summer as a nice relief from the depressing winter
Yeah, exactly. Winters in LA or LA might be different. But, winters in places with months and months of snow are awful. You can’t do much outside because it’s too cold. You can’t have your windows open to get some fresh air because it’s too cold. You can dress properly to do outdoor activities, but it often requires so many layers that it’s really uncomfortable. Plus, you can’t have any gaps. Your neck, wrists, ankles are often places where the cold can get in, or worse they can get wet and being cold and wet is awful.
In addition, the world is just miserable in winter. There’s almost nothing alive outside other than other humans. No grass, many trees lose all their leaves, birds migrate away, everything is shades of grey or brown. Christmas can be fun, and it’s no coincidence that it’s celebrated almost exactly on the darkest day of the year. That’s when we need a lot of pretty lights and cheer. But, Christmas is just the beginning of winter. What follows is months of gloomy grey cold.
And, while there are outdoor winter sports, you need special footwear for all of them because of the snow and ice. You can’t even walk across a field or a park without extra effort because of all the snow. Even key winter sports like skating or hockey, if played outside, require that you at a minimum spend a lot of time shovelling all the snow off the ice surface. For a good experience you also have to flood and smooth the ice periodically. So, it’s a lot of work.
Having said all that, if I had to choose between -30 and +40, I’d probably choose -30, because at least you can put on appropriate gear for that and spend some time outside doing something fun. It may be dark and it may be grey, but it’s possible to dress for the weather. When it’s too hot, you really can’t spend any time outside, without risking your life, and it certainly isn’t possible to do anything active. But if the choice is between -30 and +30, give me the +30 any day.
Winters in LA or LA
You… I like you.
Also, you’re sliiiightly overstating how little you can do in the summer hot times. It’s not a “risking your life” scenario every time… Recreation just switches to an early morning or post-sundown schedule. I usually still get 3-4 hours of sports activities on a saturday or sunday. Plus you get fun things like all the animals that are crepuscular being out and about, so you’ll have ospreys flying over your heads with a fish, or squirrels doing races around the fencetops.
You… I like you.
You’d really have liked it if I started talking about how the winters in Ontario, CA are much more pleasant than the ones in Ontario, CA.
Recreation just switches to an early morning or post-sundown schedule.
Ah, right. I hadn’t considered that. It’s interesting that the places with the most brutal heat are the ones with a relatively early sunset. In 2023 Oslo hit 32 degrees, not that hot by international standards, but combine that with the fact it happened on June 15th and the sun never fully sets at that time of year, and it’s hard to find relief.
I usually still get 3-4 hours of sports activities on a saturday or sunday.
Do you live somewhere where the mid-day heat is 35+C? 40+C? To me, those are the only ones where it’s truly brutal and I might prefer long, harsh winters. OTOH, human culture hasn’t really found a great way to deal with brutally cold winters. There are winter solstice celebrations, but no adjustment of the schedule of life to avoid the worst of the cold. But, in places with really hot summers there’s often a tradition of mid-day naps, and I could really get on board with that lifestyle.
Uh… off the top of my head calculations, 40C is equivalent to 104F? I think my summer days get to just below that, on average. Hottest recorded ever was 109F, but that was at an airport, so lots of concrete and very high amounts of heat producing engines may have ticked that up a degree or two.
I think my rowing activities average about 30C when we start, and the courtside fun a hair or two higher. We try to stop by the time it gets close to 39C. Even with a breeze you can’t really sustain activity by then. That’s when we go to get lunch and then, yep, sleep.
Ouch. Good to know it’s possible though.
We’re winters do suck. Snowy winters are my jam though, even with the lack of day light, the snow and quiet make up for it.
Hot humid summers, and especially mosquitoes, can fuck right off. The extra daylight is nice though
I know there’s been a campaign for years about seasonal depression, but lack of sleep causes depression too and if it’s only dark for 5.5 hours I’m probably getting about that much sleep and I’m probably waking a few times during it to sigh and turn over. Unless there’s AC and the light is 100% blacked out (not a speck peeking over or around the curtain).
Blackout curtains are mandatory equipment for any Swedish bedroom, in my opinion. There’s no way to get enough sleep without them. Sleep masks also help if you’re particularly sensitive to light.
AC is generally speaking not required, as nights are cool and letting in air can provide adequate cooling for all but the hottest days of the year. This is of course a problem for people like me who are allergic to grass pollen, which is active during summer, but I’ve been able to get by mostly with a fan these days.
I honestly love the solitude that harsh winters bring. And all the heavy clothing I get to wear, the much longer nights, going through my stockpile of canned and preserved goods. There have been winters where I was snowed in for weeks, and they were glorious
It’s true, the brain and body need extra care to prevent depression during winter, but I’m much more depressed during the long, blistering hot summer months
Yeah that winter sounds fun.
Try 7 months of dark at 3pm and grey overcast and mild drizzle everyday.
Where do I sign up?
Cumbernauld
Yes please
Winter is quite nice when there is snow. We don’t get that in Stockholm, for the most part.
Yep summer in Scotland just means it rains slightly less and doesn’t get dark at 3pm
I’ve been told it’s positively Mediterranean this year though, is that right?
We had the driest period in 100 years a month or two ago, didn’t rain for 5 weeks or something. Back to 18-20C and only raining half the time so better than usual I guess aye
20C is like the most you’re gonna get out of a scottish summer with some exceptions lol
“Climate crisis is making things slightly too warm for comfort”
Oh my. How bothersome.
I know you didn’t mean it that way, just the understatement had me cackling.
Well, it begins with too warm for comfort here, and then it gets progressively worse.
Exactly. In Seattle, summer is the best. High of 75 most days and because of the water surround the city, it only gets down to high 50’s at night. And our winters aren’t too bad. 45F/40F averages, just wet with the light rain.
But don’t tell anyone because we don’t want more people moving here!
But don’t tell anyone because we don’t want more people moving here!
You need to build more housing so that more people can enjoy it, but more significantly so that the people already there can afford it.
100%. The current city density plan will not cut it with the current growth projections. We’re trying our damnedest by being active in many advocacy groups!
In Alaska all of the seasons have their charm, except Spring. Spring is a bad time.
The thick ice on the roads starts to melt and you have wet ice for an unacceptably long time. All of the soft fluffy white snow on the sides of the road hardens and gets covered in dirt being spread to make roads drivable. Every time you leave the house it’s a harrowing experience, and everyone’s so used to the danger of driving they just shrug and go ”yeah, it’s bad out there huh?” Randomly you get a cold snap without snow just to make you suffer a bit before it goes back to thawing.
