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      hopefully when this way is over we get their projection technology, it puts IMAX to shame

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    They know this looks awful, they know it will piss off their scared populace, and they’re doing it anyway. Which means that the estimates of the amount of population ready to bail on Israel if the relatively minor missile strikes escalate must be absolutely massive.

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      It’s hilarious how they kept pushing this “We have nowhere else to go” line when they have the population with the highest dual citizenship rate who can literally just move back home to their families in the US and Europe.

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        This might be what they are referring to. Here are some sections that covers their claim

        Maksym, who has a young daughter and wife who is seven months pregnant, said he was sorry to miss the wedding but was afraid of being “grabbed” by conscription officers who he likened to “bandits”. The mobilisation squads have a fearsome reputation, especially in Odesa, for pulling people off buses and from train stations and ferrying them straight to enlistment centres. For those avoiding the draft, public transport is now off limits. So too are restaurants, supermarkets, and weekend trips to the park to play football.

        When I asked whether he was there out of choice, he told me he had been “kidnapped” that morning and brought against his will. “The officers encircled me so I couldn’t run,” he stuttered in shock. “I’m devastated."

        Last year, while on his way to work, he was ordered off a bus by the military at gun point, he said, and taken to an enlistment centre. He convinced the officers to let him go to fetch some documents, but vowed to himself he would never return. “I’m not a military man, I’ve never held a weapon, I don’t think I can be useful on the front line,” he said.

        This is only one source but I am sure you could find more if you simply looked up “Ukraine forced conscription” literally all I had to do.

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          All conscription is “forced” conscription though. US conscripts would be forced to fight or go to jail. Kidnapping is not an accurate description at all. You ignore draft orders you’re a fugitive. Simple as

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            First of all, they doesn’t make it right or not kidnapping. You literally asked who they were kidnapping and I showed you a source that even used the word kidnapping. What else could you have possibly expected. What else would you call and armed gunman forcibly taking you to a second location. Just take the L dumbass. The Ukrainian working class is being forced to fight and die for western geopolitical interests and you are unwilling to see it.

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    Freedom has many difficulties and democracy is not perfect, but we have never had to put a wall up to keep our people in, to prevent them from leaving us.

    -JFKKK

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    Is it weird that I feel bad for the Israeli population right now, even though they’re mostly pro genocide Zionists?

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      Yes, it’s normal to have empathy. There are ‘israelis’ who are the product of their environment, but in my opinion they’re just as bad, if not worse than Nazis.

      The “average” nazi was able to give themselves plausible deniability, “I’ve never seen the concentration camps! Even if it is happening, I don’t know for sure.”

      Zionists are perfectly fine with their genocide though, cheering for the removed of prisoners, to the point they would raid a prison to free the violators.

      There are telegram groups where the genocide is broadcasted, and they cheer for the horrific images when they’re posted.

      Sure, there is a handful who are aware it is wrong, but we could say this about America as well.

      If Xi sent the nukes and I was a casualty, I wouldn’t complain lmao.

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        to give themselves plausible deniability, “I’ve never seen the concentration camps! Even if it is happening, I don’t know for sure.”

        This is why I hate libs too; the military commits horrific crimes all the time, and we get snippets all the time and those minor snippets alone are always horrifically bad. Plausible deniability is the bread and butter of libs, and of all the times to hold on to it, they’re holding on to it during times of war (which is always).

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      Remember. The population was polled, about half want to kill every Gazan, and like 80-90% are on board with ethnically cleansing Gaza.

      There are some un-brain fucked in the populace, but it’s probably the most morally bankrupt population on the planet. Some empathy is good, but don’t lose sight of the real and larger group of victims.

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      Not at all. They are still human.

      There should be safe humanitarian corridors, allowing settlers to leave Palestine for the safety of their home countries.

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      Honestly? I don’t feel bad for the genocidal ones, just the few who are opposed to the horrors that are happening; that said, I do still believe in principles and I would never support the harming of civilians even if I detest them. I certainly hope Israelis at least wake up to their government seeing their lives and well-being as a tool; I don’t believe it’ll lead to empathy on their part, but maybe they’ll try to prevent their government from doing something stupid the next time.