Most expensive war game in history Millennium Challenge 2002 resulted in Iran humiliating the west day one and them having to suspend the games, revive the fleet and change the rules.
Red (IRAN) received an ultimatum from Blue (US Coalition) , essentially a surrender document, demanding a response within 24 hours. Thus warned of Blue’s approach, Red used a fleet of small boats to determine the position of Blue’s fleet by the second day of the exercise. In a preemptive strike, Red launched a massive salvo of cruise missiles that overwhelmed the Blue forces’ electronic sensors and destroyed sixteen warships: one aircraft carrier, ten cruisers and five of Blue’s six amphibious ships. An equivalent success in a real conflict would have resulted in the deaths of over 20,000 service personnel. Soon after the cruise missile offensive, another significant portion of Blue’s navy was “sunk” by an armada of small Red boats, which carried out both conventional and suicide attacks that capitalized on Blue’s inability to detect them as well as expected.
Such defeat can be attributed to various shortfall in simulation capabilities and design that significantly hindered Blue Force fighting and command capabilities. Examples include: a time lag in intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance information being forwarded to the Blueforce by the simulation master, various glitches that limited Blue ships point-defense capabilities and error in the simulation which placed ships unrealistically close to Red assets.
Exercise suspension and restart
At this point, the exercise was suspended, Blue’s ships were “re-floated”, and the rules of engagement were changed; this was later justified by General Peter Pace as follows: “You kill me in the first day and I sit there for the next 13 days doing nothing, or you put me back to life and you get 13 more days’ worth of experiment out of me. Which is a better way to do it?”
After the war game was restarted, its participants were forced to follow a script drafted to ensure a Blue Force victory.
The kitten woke me in the wee hours so I read that, most fascinating read. Fascinating enough I read the entries for Pace and Riper and fell asleep pondering the disparities in their career trajectory. I wasn’t meaning to seem dismissive of Iran, rather the opposite. I’m aware of the Houthis’ ingenuity and scrappiness and imagine Iran like the wrong smaller kid the West tries to corner. I don’t like for the US to keep poking so many bears.
Iran is the 17th largest country in the world and is very roughly a bit smaller than the part of the US east of the Mississippi (can’t find the square miles but using a tool to overlay a map of Iran onto it it looks smaller but not that much smaller). It has 10X the population of Israel (which is only the size of New Jersey)
Iran is in the middle of ratifying a long term, comprehensive security agreement with Russia, a country who NATO can’t seem to win a years-long proxy war against.
They’re also all things considered, quite a large (and mountainous) country (certainly compared to other countries in the region that Western countries and Pissreal have bombed/invaded in the past 20 years, mostly unsuccessfully). They are one of the most powerful countries in the Middle East and have a massive stockpile of missiles, which they proved could quite easily bypass Pissreal’s plastic dome missile defence system during Operation True Promise 2.
I don’t have a ton of information about it and don’t really know where to look for information that’s not Western slanted. My apologies for being uninformed and/or insulting, and thanks for correcting me!
Iran is extremely isolated, small and has presumably less disposable resources.
Most expensive war game in history Millennium Challenge 2002 resulted in Iran humiliating the west day one and them having to suspend the games, revive the fleet and change the rules.
Exercise suspension and restart
The kitten woke me in the wee hours so I read that, most fascinating read. Fascinating enough I read the entries for Pace and Riper and fell asleep pondering the disparities in their career trajectory. I wasn’t meaning to seem dismissive of Iran, rather the opposite. I’m aware of the Houthis’ ingenuity and scrappiness and imagine Iran like the wrong smaller kid the West tries to corner. I don’t like for the US to keep poking so many bears.
Holy balls
Iran is the 17th largest country in the world and is very roughly a bit smaller than the part of the US east of the Mississippi (can’t find the square miles but using a tool to overlay a map of Iran onto it it looks smaller but not that much smaller). It has 10X the population of Israel (which is only the size of New Jersey)
Iran is in the middle of ratifying a long term, comprehensive security agreement with Russia, a country who NATO can’t seem to win a years-long proxy war against.
They’re also all things considered, quite a large (and mountainous) country (certainly compared to other countries in the region that Western countries and Pissreal have bombed/invaded in the past 20 years, mostly unsuccessfully). They are one of the most powerful countries in the Middle East and have a massive stockpile of missiles, which they proved could quite easily bypass Pissreal’s plastic dome missile defence system during Operation True Promise 2.
I’m not really sure what you’re on about tbh.
I don’t have a ton of information about it and don’t really know where to look for information that’s not Western slanted. My apologies for being uninformed and/or insulting, and thanks for correcting me!
Can’t really fault you there