I think the disconnect here is that what you’re describing is a person who signed up for checks notes a running club going on a difficult run. There’s a clear disconnect between something like that and the kind of hazing people usually talk about, where the new members are harmed or humiliated by the rest of the group, and then go on to perpetuate that harm/humiliation to the next generation.
The really dangerous part of hazing is the ratchet effect. Hazing rituals like the ones I’m describing never get easier, they only get more harmful/humiliating with each successive generation, until you end up with shit like this. The only way to stop it is for a bigger outside organization to step in, set limits and enforce them. For example, modern military people will talk shit about how boot camp isn’t as hard as it used to be, but that’s because guys in the 80s were getting PTSD and permanent physical injuries from the shit the Vietnam vets were doing to them and the government had to put a stop to it.
I think the disconnect here is that what you’re describing is a person who signed up for checks notes a running club going on a difficult run. There’s a clear disconnect between something like that and the kind of hazing people usually talk about, where the new members are harmed or humiliated by the rest of the group, and then go on to perpetuate that harm/humiliation to the next generation.
The really dangerous part of hazing is the ratchet effect. Hazing rituals like the ones I’m describing never get easier, they only get more harmful/humiliating with each successive generation, until you end up with shit like this. The only way to stop it is for a bigger outside organization to step in, set limits and enforce them. For example, modern military people will talk shit about how boot camp isn’t as hard as it used to be, but that’s because guys in the 80s were getting PTSD and permanent physical injuries from the shit the Vietnam vets were doing to them and the government had to put a stop to it.