My only agenda here is reminding y’all that all of this could have been avoided. I’m sorry there wasn’t a better party than the Dems. I truly am. But what the fuck are you gonna do about it? How does abstaining from voting further that goal?
You can’t get change by working with democrats, the democrats have bent over backwards to prove they do not outright oppose the direction, only the speed we got here.
Their refusal to do their ‘job’ shows that their actual cause is not in governance but the allocation of power. In order to put up a resistance to republicans the democrats must first be dismantled. I told you people that i was going to hold my nose and vote blue, and it’s not that the democrats failed to get the vote.
It’s because they failed to get the vote because they had no interest in running on a coherent platform. It’s because after losing the confidence of their own base, they decided that it was progressive issues they must throw off as ballast. It’s because they appeal to the weak republicans voter over their own base. Its because they are actively undermining progressive proposals put forth by local progressive politicians. It’s because they parrot the ‘mandate of the people’ lie/republicans talking point to justify doing nothing. It’s because they attack individuals who put truth to power and try to do something.
So fucking no. You people do not get another ‘vote blue no matter who’ from me. Democrats are the opposition party to progressive policy. Its become crystal clear to me that if i want progressive policy, democrats must first be brought to heel, or destroyed. Only then can republicans be stopped.
I am not the democrats, and i am not a democrat as the party has made it painfully obvious. They do not stand for progressive ideals, they actively shut It down. So no i am not my own enemy, i literally do not have a primary party to represent my interest.
I did not make a call to action, i told you why i will not vote Democrat again. It is a statement of the situation at hand. And looking at the polling numbers, it seems my path is the one actually being tread. Good luck bullying the disenfranchised progressive vote back into lock step with “authoritarianism but slower”. It seems to be working out so well for you.
Do you actually have a plan to get what you want, or are you just whining and fucking over everybody who doesn’t want to live in a truly fascist police state?
Plan? You already know my plan. To abstain from backing the democrats until they become a progressive minded party, or break. I am outright telling you of voter disillusionment. Sure i may vote for someone like Bernie Sanders, an independent that wears a D when he can use it. But i will no longer vote blue no matter who. They want to run a neocon? They can do it without me. The whole reason i spoke up is that the constant blaming of disillusioned voters for the failures of the Democratic Party is a distraction that seeks to prevent your plan in the first place.
Want the progressive vote? Better push progressive policy. Better fight conservative policies. The democrats do neither
So fucking no. You people do not get another ‘vote blue no matter who’ from me. Democrats are the opposition party to progressive policy. Its become crystal clear to me that if i want progressive policy, democrats must first be brought to heel, or destroyed. Only then can republicans be stopped.
You do this by hijacking the party the way Trump hijacked the GOP. Trying to start you own thing from scratch is so obviously doomed failure that you and all your ideas will remain irrelevant.
They’re not. Capital might have found (or thought they found) a way to leverage and control Trump, but they didn’t want him in the first place. He took over anyways. The reasons for this many, but it shows that the path is available, even if difficult. The idea that you’re going to break the two party system from outside of it it without a total societal collapse at this point is pure fantasy.
Its more absurd that you think that you can change a corrupt party from within. And that you are willing to do the same thing that has failed every time and expecting different results. If you think trump getting worse will change that calculus for the better, you are mistaken, democrats are somehow losing footing by being obviously feckless, and actively preventing what you hope for. The voters would be confused you see. It the mandate of the people. We got to reach out to the republicans, blah blah blah
What described is a plan that as worked in the past. What you’ve laid out is nothing. Screaming at voters to nice you from the sidelines while you screech about the evils of capitalism as achieved what exactly? You have literally no political relevance.
I am not the ones screaming at voters. I am not the one who blames an entire group of disenfranchised progressive voters whom democrats told to get fucked, even when the math didn’t shake out.
‘Hey guys, you know how the Republican party turned extreme due to the oligarchs funding a think tank managed to use their institutional power and wealth to organize the installation of agents in positions of power in order accelerate their already authoritarian direction? Well what if we do the same! But against the democrats rightward momentum…. And without vast wealth… or power… or direction. And at the local scale…”
We both agree that democrat leaders do not want change and that requires something to be done to fix it. I don’t believe in your plan to use the same mechanism for change completely opposite the conditions in which it succeeded only in accelerating their rightward March.
This reeks of a highschool/college student with strong ideals and very little real world experience. Good luck destroying the democratic party, the Republicans have been trying for decades.
They seem very good at it recently, though it’s not hard to miss when literally every thing is a target. Good luck getting corruption to willingly give up power.
My only agenda here is reminding y’all that all of this could have been avoided. I’m sorry there wasn’t a better party than the Dems. I truly am. But what the fuck are you gonna do about it? How does abstaining from voting further that goal?
You can’t get change by working with democrats, the democrats have bent over backwards to prove they do not outright oppose the direction, only the speed we got here.
Their refusal to do their ‘job’ shows that their actual cause is not in governance but the allocation of power. In order to put up a resistance to republicans the democrats must first be dismantled. I told you people that i was going to hold my nose and vote blue, and it’s not that the democrats failed to get the vote.
It’s because they failed to get the vote because they had no interest in running on a coherent platform. It’s because after losing the confidence of their own base, they decided that it was progressive issues they must throw off as ballast. It’s because they appeal to the weak republicans voter over their own base. Its because they are actively undermining progressive proposals put forth by local progressive politicians. It’s because they parrot the ‘mandate of the people’ lie/republicans talking point to justify doing nothing. It’s because they attack individuals who put truth to power and try to do something.
So fucking no. You people do not get another ‘vote blue no matter who’ from me. Democrats are the opposition party to progressive policy. Its become crystal clear to me that if i want progressive policy, democrats must first be brought to heel, or destroyed. Only then can republicans be stopped.
My enemy’s enemy is… ALSO MY ENEMY! You’re your own enemy, congratulations!
I am not the democrats, and i am not a democrat as the party has made it painfully obvious. They do not stand for progressive ideals, they actively shut It down. So no i am not my own enemy, i literally do not have a primary party to represent my interest.
I did not make a call to action, i told you why i will not vote Democrat again. It is a statement of the situation at hand. And looking at the polling numbers, it seems my path is the one actually being tread. Good luck bullying the disenfranchised progressive vote back into lock step with “authoritarianism but slower”. It seems to be working out so well for you.
Do you actually have a plan to get what you want, or are you just whining and fucking over everybody who doesn’t want to live in a truly fascist police state?
Plan? You already know my plan. To abstain from backing the democrats until they become a progressive minded party, or break. I am outright telling you of voter disillusionment. Sure i may vote for someone like Bernie Sanders, an independent that wears a D when he can use it. But i will no longer vote blue no matter who. They want to run a neocon? They can do it without me. The whole reason i spoke up is that the constant blaming of disillusioned voters for the failures of the Democratic Party is a distraction that seeks to prevent your plan in the first place.
Want the progressive vote? Better push progressive policy. Better fight conservative policies. The democrats do neither
You do this by hijacking the party the way Trump hijacked the GOP. Trying to start you own thing from scratch is so obviously doomed failure that you and all your ideas will remain irrelevant.
Nope, because the same pressures that caused that, are the same pressures that caused the democrats to be an issue in the first place.
They’re not. Capital might have found (or thought they found) a way to leverage and control Trump, but they didn’t want him in the first place. He took over anyways. The reasons for this many, but it shows that the path is available, even if difficult. The idea that you’re going to break the two party system from outside of it it without a total societal collapse at this point is pure fantasy.
Its more absurd that you think that you can change a corrupt party from within. And that you are willing to do the same thing that has failed every time and expecting different results. If you think trump getting worse will change that calculus for the better, you are mistaken, democrats are somehow losing footing by being obviously feckless, and actively preventing what you hope for. The voters would be confused you see. It the mandate of the people. We got to reach out to the republicans, blah blah blah
What described is a plan that as worked in the past. What you’ve laid out is nothing. Screaming at voters to nice you from the sidelines while you screech about the evils of capitalism as achieved what exactly? You have literally no political relevance.
I am not the ones screaming at voters. I am not the one who blames an entire group of disenfranchised progressive voters whom democrats told to get fucked, even when the math didn’t shake out.
‘Hey guys, you know how the Republican party turned extreme due to the oligarchs funding a think tank managed to use their institutional power and wealth to organize the installation of agents in positions of power in order accelerate their already authoritarian direction? Well what if we do the same! But against the democrats rightward momentum…. And without vast wealth… or power… or direction. And at the local scale…”
We both agree that democrat leaders do not want change and that requires something to be done to fix it. I don’t believe in your plan to use the same mechanism for change completely opposite the conditions in which it succeeded only in accelerating their rightward March.
This reeks of a highschool/college student with strong ideals and very little real world experience. Good luck destroying the democratic party, the Republicans have been trying for decades.
They seem very good at it recently, though it’s not hard to miss when literally every thing is a target. Good luck getting corruption to willingly give up power.