Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., told a crowd of thousands at a rally in Los Angeles on Saturday that the U.S. was facing a moment of “extraordinary danger” as he criticized the political, economic and social policies of Donald Trump.

Sanders, who also dropped by the music festival Coachella over the weekend, has been criss-crossing the U.S. to speak out against the new Republican administration.

“We are living in a moment of extraordinary danger,” he said, “and how we respond to this moment will not only impact our lives but will impact the lives of our kids and future generations.”

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      Both MAGA and these so-called “allies” want me dead at the end of the day. We’re just expected to starve to death when Amerikkka collapses or the people finally rise up.

      I know full well how horrific what Israel is doing is. But there was no anti-genocide option on the ballot in 2024. There was no way that Jill Stein or whoever was going to get enough votes to win. Hell, most of Stein’s supporters I talked to their best case scenario was getting to 5% for debate access and federal funds next go round. Any that I confronted about Gaza not having 4 years just shrugged and said some variation of “better than voting for a genocide” How exactly? Because they didn’t have to sacrifice their ideological purity?

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        Also, Jill Stein is just as corrupted by Russian money as all the Republican Party leadership are. She just exists to steal Dem votes.

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          Some historical context for you.

          Just in case you don’t read or comprehend the article here is a TL;DR

          Third party is dead in the US without changes to the voting process.

          And just to be more clear: You, and anyone else who voted third party essentially voted for Trump. And if you didn’t vote you voted for Trump as well.

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              If you don’t understand how either not voting or voting third party equated to voting for Trump then I guess enjoy riding your moral high horse of superiority.

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                trump only gets to count votes for him. any other vote is a vote against him, and a non vote is a non vote

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                  See the thing is that a candidate only needs a plurality of cast votes. So every vote that doesn’t get cast makes that plurality easier to achieve. If there are 100 people that can vote and all of them do you need 51 for a majority. If 10 of them don’t vote at all and there’s only 90 left you now only need 46 for that same majority. If another 10 of them vote for some third party that person now only needs 41 votes to have the largest plurality. Every person that doesn’t vote lowers the threshold for victory.

                  It’s tempting to think that this benefits both remaining candidates equally since both can benefit from that lowered margin. But in reality it gets skewed based on who stayed home/voted third party and who didn’t. This is the spoiler effect.

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          Yes, we already covered Democrats Bad. I agree. I hate them with a passion. Doesn’t change that in a national electoral sense they are the only viable party at this moment to enact any kind of positive change. They are not and should never be the only option. But all people who talk like you do ever seem to offer as a solution is the “Glorious Revolution™” that hundreds of thousands if not millions of vulnerable people WILL die in because they never think about how those people are going to survive when food or medicine supply lines get disputed by fighting for the most fucking basic of examples.

          They engage in this rhetoric because it’s Magical Thinking that absolves them of having to do something they feel is icky and stains their ideological purity. It’ll all be fixed when the Oppressed finally throw off their chains and eat the rich or whatever.

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      Trolling with anonymous input on a basis of moral superiority helps no one and makes you appear to be an agent sowing division. Just FYI, contributing nothing to the conversation, other than telling others they should be ashamed is bot behaviour.

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          The enemy of progress is division. Holding idealised views of how political parties should be is disingenuous virtue signalling and disregards how politics work(s)ed in America with AIPAC, corporate lobbying and a two party system of First Past The Post elections. You are right to want further change, but right now this divisive rhetoric only serves the ruling class. Democrats are always targeted for their failings and support for the party is often split because of it, while republicans disregard all criticism and stay united through their hatred and obfuscation of the truth. You can be right without also serving the purposes of your enemy. If they prevail, when they finally crush every last one of us because there was no united opposition. It does not matter how correct you are my friend, being right won’t matter. “I told you so” means nothing in Hell.

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      You “disqualified” everyone for not doing enough and left Palestine to the group who would be fine if all Arabic peoples were wiped out.

      But I’m sure Palestinians are weeping thankfully about how you and yours voted.

      Sounds less like caring about Palestinian innocents and more about performative righteousness and your personal image.

      If Trump and maga appreciate your actions (and boy did they), it puts you on their side, imo.

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          Does yours?

          Try seeing outside of black and white absolutes.

          Are you unable to see that this administration is WORSE?

          Are you incapable of understanding why people who support Palestine might vote for the lesser evil of two guaranteed options?

          You and others like you scream about how we don’t care about genocide, but I’m pretty sure you know the truth and you’re just trying to convince yourself that you did the right thing.

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              I don’t disagree about the Democrats.

              We DO disagree that it was worth allowing the administration that is objectively worse for the Palestinians to take charge to make a point about the Democrats.

              If someone told you that you had to sacrifice your entire family in order to “save democracy” would you do it?

              You’re still missing it.

              While saving democracy is certainly part of avoiding Trump, you’re still trying to spin this into something it’s not.

              The relevant point here is that with Democrats, they’d probably still be in a load of trouble while the Dems played politics until they figured out just how much of their base supports Palestine.

              With the Republicans… they cheer for the genocide. Hell, if they pull enough authority with this grab, they’ll probably send troops to help the IDF finish the job.

              People like me voted for the chance to avoid the latter. I’d like to think people like you voted for hope.

              But when people who voted for neither major party yell about how Democrat voters are “fInE wItH gEnOcIdE”, when it was a calculated choice in support of Palestine, it starts to feel like virtue signaling.