we should open a c/conservative while we’re at it, considering there are millions of conservatives around the world that don’t follow the ‘yankoid’ Republican party and have their own personal conservative beliefs. I’m sure there are many who aren’t transphobic - it’s not like there’s a doctrine to being right wing

after all, it would be naive to not reach across the table on our path to communism

or maybe a c/police, not everybody has had the american cop experience - there are good cops out there who don’t support the bad cops, they should be given space too

of all the struggle sessions for us to have, this genuinely feels like one that needs to be hashed out tbh

also I’m sure it’s just Christianity that has this issue, and every other religion is actually A-OK

you guys just dont get it, this is my comfort belief system - I’m sure we can cut out the bad parts of it, you see I’m a good Christian, you can trust me

it’s a very well known and widely held opinion on hexbear that you can simply reform problems out of archaic and failing systems, just don’t look at the bad actors those guys don’t count

also neither do the millions of people using my religion as a shield for their bigotry, they don’t count either - unless we’re arguing for why we need to be soft on religion, in which case they totally count and you are being very naive to exclude them

also if you bring them up as a reason why these things shouldn’t be finding such support on a website that bills itself as welcoming to the oppressed you are personally attacking me and the immaterial beliefs that I need to help me cope with the material reality we live in, which I find to be very marxist of me

this is not a full vod, but his whole alien rant is basically what you’re describing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYlmrdGfGg8

Is Northernlion the only normal streamer?

yes

our intelligent “wait on China’s inevitable collapse”, their manipulative “taking advantage of disruption”

the truth is that most libs genuinely do believe the right wing “they’re just saying what everyone’s thinking”, they just add “but youre not supposed to say that”

absolutely no work done to remove brainworms

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since the ban got lifted, it’s been insane seeing all the libs have to internalise the contradictions they’ve been present with by talking about how ‘its hard to unsee all the propaganda that just played out in front of our eyes’ or how ‘obvious’ it is that this is proof of TikTok trying to control the American public

as if every single chinese person on XHS is a plant lmao

the cognitive dissonance is just only gonna get worse from here out. maybe one day they’ll figure out that the rest of the world doesn’t spend every waking moment thinking about how to trick americans who are too docile and bought in to ever do anything but be led by the nose on behalf of their state department

And I mean I fundamentally dislike and distrust men in general and find the way they dehumanize, fetishize, and try to control women (or other men for that matter, because cis gay men–particularly richer ones–do it too) repulsive, but the counter to that isn’t declaring that some adult women are literally children because they might hypothetically become the target of some creep’s lust, it’s giving women more agency, rights, and education and trying to prevent the actual power disparity in our patriarchal hellstate that heavily enables abusers to prey on women in general, not just younger women. Is a middle aged man specifically pursuing college students or recent college graduates a creep? Probably, especially if he’s actively setting out to do it and it’s not just some incidental meeting, and it probably ties into gross youth-fetishization aspects of our culture, but it’s also not “literally pedophilia” nor can we can unilaterally say “actually this adult woman is not trusted to enter into this relationship for herself and so it must be prohibited on her behalf, as we have determined it’s some percentage more likely to be an abusive relationship than the baseline chance of abuse that a closer-in-age relationship has, which is also sickeningly high because we live in a patriarchal hellstate that teaches men to prey on women and grooms women to submit to this.”

Genuinely, I do agree with all of this, and my point really was that I want more conversations about this in particular. The point I was making is that, rather than being able to talk about the issues frankly like this, and how the patriarchal status quo we find ourselves in is the larger issue here, every single time instead the comments are full of jokes taking this to the extreme that effectively throw the baby out with the bath water. Whether or not my word is taken for it, I’m rational about this - I full understand the spectrum of human intelligence and agency, and I agree that in an ideal world this would not be something we worry about. I’m not so black and white in my thinking as to genuinely believe we can draw a line and say ‘That’s good enough’ with any conviction. I’m just jilted that any time this comes up, we get lost in comments about ‘oh in that case my relationship should send me to the gulag’, which I think we can agree is actively not helpful towards this conversation - I mean, in this comment section alone, how many comments are just variations on that joke, let alone the other comment section just 4 days ago. If I’m being honest with myself and with the community, it’s the response here that has me worried more than anything - the instant air of dismissiveness just rubs me the wrong way. Like at no point am I even bringing up pedophilia, but everything seems so centered around how such a thing would affect individuals here personally, instead of discussions that feel genuine about an issue whose discourse contains some ‘ultras’.

it’s not a ‘thing’, but it is one user wielding it to try and shut down any conversation, but maybe they were trying to make a different point and made it in the most crude way possible

sorry if i keep coming across as incensed with these comments, but it feels like an insane blindspot for hexbear to have

like why of all things is this being memed on? Sure, you’ll see the occasional post that goes overboard but it’s incomprehensible to me to log on to this site and see people acting like there is NOTHING to be taken seriously here. EVERYONE has to have some ‘Power Dynamics’ or ‘well lock me up cos my girlfriend is two weeks younger than me’ joke to post for a handful of upvotes.

Maybe it’s because the users commenting have never dealt with this, or had friends who have, but it feels like this whole thing denies entire experiences that so many of my AFAB friends have had with older men manipulating and taking advantage of them at 16 (or if they have even a modicum of shame, waiting to pounce until theyre 18), and to see users here just brush the entire thing off - and for what? Legitimately for what?

That last question is why this whole thing smacks of defensiveness for me. Either that or a bunch of people being reactionary and scared of some imagined puritan boogeyman laying in hiding in the next generation.

and people had the gall to tell me the other day that users on this site aren’t being weirdly defensive about this discourse

wonder if we’re gonna get more comments complaining about the age of consent again this time

you missed this one https://hexbear.net/comment/5812044

and this one https://hexbear.net/comment/5811125

and this one https://hexbear.net/comment/5811178, specifically sooper_dooper_roofer’s comment

and as for what you’ve linked, where you’re reading ‘satirising’ i’m reading ‘taking something to a logical extreme to show how ridiculous it is’, and it’s definitely pointed at this discourse and not at redditorisms

this whole thread is a Reddit reference, feels like I stumbled into bizarro hexbear

why is always when some shit like this gets posted i see a bunch of reactionary comments on hexbear like ‘oh well i guess we all have to date someone born the same SECOND as us HUH? I better tell my WIFE I’m a P*DO because there’s two years between us!!’ like come the fuck on

i get it, idpol’s gone wild and the youth are nutso but do you really have to throw out the nuance?? maybe i’m misreading things but it feels like some of yall get really defensive when this topic comes up, and as a result we can never have any valid discussion about this topic without someone throwing some reddit-level bad faith thing at you for saying ‘yes, there is some truth to age-gap discourse’

i was gonna say any bit part where they were too cheap to hire a POC so they got Hank Azaria to put on a shitty accent, but after some research that’s a surprisingly wide net (actually insane what they were still doing just years ago)

i’ll go with Hank Scorpio, the better Hank

if you like your twitter handle uhhh you can keep it