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To be fair that’s been a common industry for much of human history.

The professional fixer of the stupidity of the rich. Is a age old profession and well respected.

Just this times it’s, the slop machine is working what are we paying you for. The slop machine is broke what are we paying you for!

After talking to some people who actually have been forced to work with AI on projects in teams Its been horrifying to find how little time they are given to build out proper safe guards, rules and test the process.

Management seems to be expecting these stupid robots to work the first time every time

Even in small projects for every 8 hours of work there’s a good hour or two of adjusting memory, standing rules, hooks, and countless other things.

It’s endless upkeep. Every shift in work flow tends to create knock on effects.

Management of the bot it self becomes a massive work load if you want them to be even remotely reliable.

I’m not surprised their use in a corporate environment is backfiring massively.

Thats a tool… The carrying out of anothers design IS one of the definitions of a tool. Employees ARE tools. Its a horridly demeaning definition yes, but it IS one of the definitions. It’s where the insultive form of the word comes from for heaven sake.

They are literally tools. Even if you go by the more generic definition of just something that is used to perform an operation or action. Its still a tool.

If you want to go by ONLY the very strictest definition and ignore all secondary ones. Then computers as a whole arn’t tools full stop. Only an object that is directly used to multiply the force of a manual labor task is a tool or the cutting edge of said objects are tools.

So either its a tool, or we are being pedantic idiots picking and choosing cause our fee fees are hurt and we want to play stupid word games. There is no inbetween here. So pick your side. Are computers tools? Or are we playing stupid word games.

Batyou!

Ahh yeah, my bad. Ignore me i misunderstood.

To be fair, the gun manufacturer IS the guy slinging it as well. They are in this instance the same person. Anthropic would be the manufacture, distributor and gunman for example.

The reality of the matter “its just a tool” is both literally just factual it IS the reality. It also makes a cheap and easy scape goat. But this is a problem not just ai but damn well near every major tool has had people use to sideline the harm caused by the disingenuous till the law and public understanding catches up. It’s why snake oil salesmen works so well. Your not lying. Your just not telling the whole truth and misleading by virtue of ignorance and bad faith.

So yeah, i entirely agree. Its a fucking annoying ass frustrating piece of pro-ai bullshit from bad-faith actors when used that way. I fucking hate it.

The number of people who are actually treating LLMs as the tool they are and respecting their limitations, their problems and how shitty they can be. While being honest and upfront about them. Is small, far smaller then i wish it was.

But at the same time, those people trying to honest also keep getting doxed, getting hated on, being targeted and having violence directed at them from communities they arn’t use to having to deal with that from. Which is ALSO something damn well near every major tools early adopters had to deal with. And like normal those early adopters turn inward and try to hide and insulate themselves from that misdriected hate.

Resulting in the only people being vocal are the fucktards with no standards or morals abusing the new thing for cheap profit and clout. While anyone with morals feels shame and tries to hide it to not upset others or disrupt them. Its a shitty cycle, its happened repeatedly though history, and theres basically nothing to be done about it so long as there are assholes willing to lie, cheat and fuck over others. AI is REALLY bad for it too cause of how low the bar is to become a snake oiler for it.

My point really just boils down to, hate the assholes and the abusers. Leave the guys trying to use it ethically and honestly alone how ever few of them there are, and don’t blame a tool for a human problem.

I can confirm I had the bright idea to automate audiobooks… Only to quickly realize I suddenly had the problem of how the hell do I organize it, find whats next or make sure I get what I want.

Ended just making a janky little site that’s basically a knock off audible suggestion engine.

Then rigged it up to the automation. Can put things on the list it searches once a day for anything on the list and downloads it if I don’t have it.

It even checks the cover art, tags, and what not to make sure it’s all accurate then slaps it in and sends me a nifty little notice when it’s done!

I’m working to do the same thing with music next.

Shotgun automation is not the way. Curated automatic is!

Tho I do double check everything before first run… Been bit before. Lol

Three models my self, qwen 27b as a dev assistant, a small model rigged up to handle voice input as an assistant that’s connected to my intercom system though out the house. Mostly to run my lights/music/audiobook play back. It’s fun having jarvis control the house after all. Then a image generator.

Llama and swap on a 7900xtx.

I haven’t gotten around to setting up phone access but wireguard for remote access form work in my laptop.

Honestly it’s all basically over priced toys. I’m baffled that people rely on this stuff. I look at it the same way people do with model airplanes or RC cars.

Over priced toys that are hell of a lot of fun. Break frequently and require more care then they are probably worth to use safely lol

I’ve been eyeing lemonade as I am on llama and swap my self. How much of a pita was the migration. I’m a lazy bastard.

Why not both? Become the problem for the problem!

To be fair on that one it’s one of the single best example of people coming together to actually solve a problem.

It’s also one of the single best examples of why solving a problem goes unnoticed because it’s boring and not news worthy.

Don’t worry everyone else does as well for some fucking reason it’s not just the ceos.

Never had more then a thousand dollars in savings before a medical emergency, major crisis, economic implosion, or some other event destroyed anything I built.

I just gave up entirely. Lot of people stuck in this position unfortunately

There’s reason to be upset with corpo dipshits breaking the law, lying and selling snake oil.

Being upset at AI is just fucking stupid. With out these dipshit corpos the tech would be entirely mundane.

It’s just the snake oil problem. The product isn’t a problem it’s the people hocking it.

Getting mad at the product is exactly what they want cause it means they can do anything and get away with it.

Cause you can’t fucking punish something that isn’t alive.

No your anger is entirely justified. Just misplaced.

Your directing anger towards an inanimate thing. Ai doesn’t care nor is it harming anything you listed.

Human shit stains using ai as a blunt instrument is harming everything you listed.

Being upset at AI is like being upset at guns for massshootings.

Put a gun in the ground and guess what it’s going to do. Fuck all, it’s going to sit there cause it’s a piece of shit metal that can’t do shit.

Direct your anger to the actual sub human shit stains ruining everything for the rest of us. It gives you an actual outlet, an actual real and tangible thing that you can rationalize.

You can DO something about people misusing a tool. You can’t do shit about the tool.

Pandoras box can never be closed. We call all work together to prevent assholes from using what came out of it from making our lives worse tho.

Batwom

I’ve been saying this a lot recently but, AI is like a hammer.

Any idiot can swing a hammer. Not every idiot can build a house.

Ai is the same, it can be used crudely and cause problems, or with care and thought and be used to create something functional and reliable.

The entire concept of hating ai is fundamentally retarded.

Hating the corpos and people abusing it makes sense. They are the ones causing environmental damage, they are the ones stealing and causing legal issues, they are the ones lying.

Ai in and if it self. Is sitting there doing nothing. Because it’s a fucking tool. Nothing more or less.

Ai can’t hurt you. Ai can’t fucking do anything because it’s not alive. It has no will or wants or agenda.

Yet people all over the Internet and lemmy is really bad about this. Seems so far up their own asses on the hate train they forgot a tool can’t do anything without a person using it.

Ai companies are a bane and a pox on society and need to be taxed into oblivion, shut down, and the ceos likely jailed.

But the people aren’t the tool.

Judge people by their actions. Stop judging a fucking tool like it’s a person.

Nothing brings people together like hate.

Zero or one backups depending on the type of data generally.

For a system if it can’t be redeployed from a list of requirements then I Foundationally ducked up. It means either I’m depending on something fragile, unknowable or over complicated.

Raw data on the other hand goes on a raid array. If I need more redundancy then that, then a single extra off site backup on a cd or something.

A back up on the same drive as the original isn’t a backup. It’s a waste of space, and a stupid idea.

A system that requires excessive nonsense is not reliable.

If I have a on and off site back up and both fail. Then either the world is literally fucking on fire and it doesn’t matter. Or someone dropped a bomb on my storage.

Either way I have bigger problems at that point.

Gog feels like it’s one step form becoming a enshittified corporate hellscape half the time. And only by virtue of not having a dominant market position keeping it in check enough to not let it self go to shit.