• DagwoodIII@piefed.social
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    99.9% of the people would be happy to live in a Scandinavian type socialism with a few billionaires and a strong social net that keeps healthy and fed.

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      As someone living in Finland, i can say i am indeed healthy and fed, even though my 2-person household’s total income for this year has on average only been about 1600 euros/month with some benefits. Waiting times for social security services have gotten quite long, which hurts the feeling of security, but overall things here are okay.

      My partner and I experienced the medical care system for the first time this year, I got a 30€ bill for two brief visits at the clinic due to a cat bite (+had to buy some anti-biotics myself), my partner had an ear-infection that had them visit the hospital i think 5 or 6 times. This time the bills totaled about 350€, which we disputed because of our current low-income situation, the bills were put on hold and we were given a waiting time of 6 months for the final verdict.

      Edit: also, we had the tax-day yesterday, everyone’s income and taxes were publicly revealed, which is pretty nice

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      Your 99.9 % people can suck my balls. Your economics doesn’t hold grounnds. We seen this in cuba.

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        We seen this in cuba.

        which has been US embargo’d since… 1960.

        Tell us, when Cuba is so bad off, why do you think USA needs to keep an embargo on them?

      • “the economics of the successful country you speak of is impossible, it simply cannot work! Here is another country that has been beaten down, invaded by, embargo’d, and generally dragged through hell by a much larger country I and many conservatives like to hold up as an example of why it doesn’t work! So you see, the other successful country that isn’t suffering those issues will eventually fail!”

        You’ve solved earth, my dude. Congrats.

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          Ok stalinists. You’re now talking International economy not just one random country? You’re economy still doesn’t hold grounds. We don’t want of your reforms and your golden chain. Fucking Populist Douche bag.

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      That’s ok, as an Anarchist I also don’t understand. I mean, I think I get what they are trying to say, but it’s just… incorrect?

      Fascism is about authoritarian mass control of one group to enact oppression and violence and bigotry on another vulnerable group in one form or another. If you would like to acheive that (most if not all bigots do), you are a Fascist.

      Capitalism is about getting the highest profit for yourself by fucking others over. The goal is not typically discriminate violence. The only reason it sometimes becomes that is because people tend to be bigoted and their buissiness ends up reflecting that. But that is still not fascism because it is not with the goal or result of mass abuse and oppression of a group.

      Capitalism can absolutely be a major part of the process of fascism, but they are not the same.

      Now that that is out of the way, what tf is the meme saying? Is it insulting liberals or praising them? Was it made to insinuate they are the same or that they are not the same?

      It feels like someone who calls themselves a leftist but doesn’t understand the nuance and complexities of how Capitalism and Fascism can or cannot interplay decided to try and take a shot at liberals.

      I don’t understand because equating those 2 things would be a VERY radical take (albeit wrong), not very liberal at all…

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        Both capitalism and Fascism are both pyramid schemes; but to further critique this; fascism is a direct evolution of capitalism. You cannot have one without the other, as without a capitalist mode of production to evolve from, there isn’t the production capacity to sustain a ruling dictatorship.

        Now does capitalism always evolve into socialism? No, but unchecked it always will, which is why anarcho-capitalism is just an oxymoron that cannot possibly ever exist.

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        You cannot or don’t want to understand or maybe both. You probably truly don’t understand that anarchism is a bourgeois ideology and you probably don’t want to.

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          I have heard that line so many times from people who noone actually sees as helpful and for the working class. I don’t understand the whole “Anarchism is a bourgeois ideology.” because it’s so insane I cannot comprehend how anyone can beleive that.

          I can tell you the honest difference between the bulk of Communists and Anarchists:

          Communists hate people and don’t think there is actually good in most people inherently. Not really anyway.

          We Anarchists understand people don’t want to be evil and most “evil” people are a result of an uncaring and harsh system.

          You don’t beleive in people. That’s why you all usually end up skewing more authoritarian.

          Edit: WHICH, if we wanna come full circle on this, is very bourgeois because sewing distrust in your fellow people is basically rule #1 of any problematic system, such as Capitalism and Fascism.