• RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world
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    The entire market saw the US government shovelling money in to your loading dock, Jennie. The market may be ignorant, but they’re not stupid.

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    16 hours ago

    I never understood how capitalists claim market prices are the true source of truth and yet disagree with it when it’s not the outcome they like.

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    Jensen doesn’t seem to realize that the only company profiting from AI is nvidia, and they’re profiting from companies that are losing money on AI. It’s a very fragile ecosystem being over-inflated. A bubble, if you will.

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      Which is fine and dandy when you’re paying fat dividends and not treating the inflated stock as the end goal itself.

      Nvidia’s annual dividend was .022%

      To put that into perspective, Shell’s is 3.83% and McDonald’s is 2.41%.

      Nvidia is showing all the signs of a business that has lost the plot. They’re spending all their actual profit on buying their own products for other businesses and calling it an investment into infrastructure.

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    Let me fix that phrasing: “One of the richest men in the world complains that others did not give him more money after his business made so much money.”

    What a sad existence. Find some other form of validation, dude.

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      Pretended to make a bunch of money. Stock buybacks and giving AI companies money so they’ll use it to buy your hardware doesn’t count.

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    the CEO said. “We’re basically holding the planet together — and it’s not untrue.”

    No. No dude. No. Quite the opposite.

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    The arrogance in some of those quotes. Holy shit.

    Jensen, you and your entire company could disappear without a trace, today, and the world would be just fine.

    Probably better, in fact.

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      I get your hate, but there would be significant turmoil in the world if the largest and most advanced GPU provider disappeared. So you’re sorta lying.

      Scientific advances would slow and engineering tasks would also suffer from the lack of capability to run simulations. Eventually, AMD and Intel would pick up the slack and the world would start doing well again.

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        Yes as we all know, the nuclear furnace that is the sun depends on Nvidia.

        Smoke some more sparky.

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        Yes, but, let’s speculate a second.

        Jensen is just a guy, nvidia is just a company. If they both disappeared, the people who are actually responsible for the company to be “one of the largest and most advanced” in the industry would still exist.

        They have a specific skillset that would then be in demand. Let’s say three or four of these people open new GPU chipset companies to fill the void with backing from desperate investors.

        Now you have three or four advanced GPU providers all competing with each other. Who benefits the most from this?

        Consumers. Us.

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    The stock is down because the Overton window has shifted. Two or three months ago, AI was the future and question that was lunacy. Now it is a mainstream point of discussion that AI is a giant bubble, that it is entirely likely to pop at some point, and that the efforts pushing it so hard are bordering on irrational given the actual capability of the product.

    If AI bubble pops, Nvidia loses. No more big tech companies with blank checks and open orders for AI chips that basically amount to ‘please send us as many AI chips as you can manufacture whatever it costs we will pay’.

    And, if anything there may be a surplus of AI chips and hardware in the market as companies that have built entire data centers for AI suddenly realize that paying millions for electricity so online idiots can generate videos of cats racing Roombas down F1 tracks is not a trillion-dollar business model.

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      I’ll just be happy when gamers are able to get used GPUs at prices similar to “crypto crash” era or maybe even cheaper. That’s one of the reasons I’m rooting for this bubble to pop.

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        Sadly I think you may be disappointed. The GPUs used for AI are not typical graphics GPUs, they aren’t on PCIe cards with video ports. They are set up in configurations designed to cram as many chips as possible into as small a space as possible while still providing power and cooling for 100% output on all of them.

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          There still are a high amount of 4090s, modified 4080s, and 5090s in AI deployment (especially for their cost compared to the specialized stuff). It probably won’t be the vast majority of cards, but it’ll be nice to see in the used market.

          I live in silicon valley, once that bubble bursts I’m going straight to craigslist and ebay lol

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        Yeah, our memory prices have been affected too by the stupid AI shit.

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    CEO complains that his blatant circular investment infinite money glitch isn’t convincing people that these perpetually unprofitable businesses are actually worth further investment.

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    “If we delivered a bad quarter, it is evidence there’s an AI bubble. If we delivered a great quarter, we are fueling the AI bubble.”

    The proper way to read this is:

    “We absolutely, 100% are in an already over inflated bubble, therefore if we deliver a bad quarter it could be a sign of the bubble popping. If we deliver a good quarter, we are fueling the bubble further”

    I wonder how the quarters are going to look next year when OpenAI cannot pay Oracle 6 times their current revenue in contracts, and therefore Oracle won’t deliver the contracted Data Center capacity requiring 2 non-existen Hoover Dams worth of power to run them and therefore NVidia will be left holding the bag on millions of commissioned but not sold GPUs

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    “We’re basically holding the planet together — and it’s not untrue.”

    So he admits that it’s a bubble set to burst.

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    The market doesn’t give a shit about you or your company. The people who bet lots of money on your company’s success or failure give a shit about whether your company is a pile of rubble in x amount of time when they can cash out.