I’m trying to parse what’s going to on here and uh….

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    They were stupidpol leftists.

    The entire stupidpol crowd moved right because the right would allow them to be shitbags whereas the left would criticise them for their reactionary views constantly.

    Strasserites is probably the closest comparison.

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    I remember that the sub was nazbol back before chapo got banned from Reddit since they would show up and whine that people weren’t casually racist or misogynist enough and you weren’t allowed to say slurs or be a ‘race realist’. Can’t imagine it has gotten better.

    Otherwise I just know they have vocal fry.

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    No. It started out “left wing” in those halcyon days of the mid 2010s when all you really had to do to be considered left wing and gain online clout was say I support Bernie or some shit. So they were generally left wing in that they were associated with Chapo and were a part of that whole “dirtbag left” Brooklyn podcaster scene, but (and I never listened to the podcast but this was always my understanding) there was never a lot of substance to their political stance and it was mostly just a general radlib dirtbag left aesthetic. But the cool hip position for a young Brooklynite back then was to support Bernie and that whole DSA style leftism so they by default held these positions.

    Then the one-two punch of Covid and the George Floyd protests happened which broke a lot of people’s brains. The leftists were now being asked to stand on principle and many (read: most) couldn’t do it. The Red Scare girls were prime candidates for those who wouldn’t be able to since they mostly just held their beliefs by default. They ended up becoming part of the “Dimes Square” non-scene which was mostly just a bunch of young rich Manhattanites who were mad about mask mandates and idk if they were all fascists before but because leftists were asking them to mask and criticizing them for not doing so they all got really into far right politics. Dasha sort of became the it girl of this non-scene since she was and remains the most well-known of anyone involved. So that’s what led to them having Alex Jones and now Nick Fuentes on the show.

    You also had a lot of leftists who became leftists because it was the cool youth culture thing to do from like 2015-2019 and many who just wanted to criticize liberals and identity politics - essentially the anti-PC anti-SJW anti-woke mentality but without having to be considered “uncool” - and these people never developed any actual socialist principles and when the time came for these people to actually be principled it just wasn’t there. The right wing allowed them to hate identity politics and this time without having to pretend to care about other things so they moved into the hard right camp. A lot of these people were stupidpol types and this pretty much describes the red scare fanbase now as I understand it.

  • cerealkiller [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    From what I’ve heard the podcast is financed by Peter Thiel and the hosts themselves are right wing so, no It’s not left wing. Also the subreddit is a cesspool of transphobia and body shaming.

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    At some point, I was confused about it because I didn’t know the history but heard the name which sounds left-y so I stated listening to one episode.

    They said “abortion is literally killing babies”; advocate voting Republican in NY and I think there was also something heinous about black people.

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    The podcast is not leftwing. From what I understand, they started as “dirt bag left” and then moved right years ago

    Don’t know about the subreddit

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    it wildly swings between “DPRK actually are the good guys and Bernie was based for giving us healthcare” to “immigrants and homeless are scum who are polluting superior western civilization”. The only thing they are NOT is centrist neoliberal.