• FishFace@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    All casualties that Putin doesn’t give a shit about, so why is that important, really? There may come a point where Russia’s high casualty rate has significant domestic impact, but it is not yet. With control of the media, Putin is able to paint a much rosier picture at home, and when his military’s ranks are swollen with convicts and North Koreans, the actual losses are of lower impact to begin with.

    To put it another way: if Russia is currently losing, what would you call a state in which Russia stops advancing? What would you call a state in which Ukraine were able to take back - and then hold - territory?

    People who talk shit about how Russia is losing, is idiotic and so on, I think still have the mentality most people did in the first months of the invasion, when Russia had just been shown to be a complete paper tiger relative to prior expectations. A war they were supposed to win in a few days is still going, and they haven’t won it yet - a terrible humiliation for Russia. But the fact that they suffered a terrible humiliation, were ridiculously less powerful than most people believed, doesn’t mean they’re losing. “Slowly gaining territory at great cost” is not losing. Achieving a victory for Ukraine means a change from the current state of affairs; they need more weapons and support than they are currently receiving.

    You haven’t actually disagreed with any of the potential things I pointed at Russia being able to do, or at Europe’s slow rearmament. Those were the substantive things.

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      12 hours ago

      All casualties that Putin doesn’t give a shit about, so why is that important, really?

      The Russians should put you in charge of signing up new recruits. LMAO

      There may come a point where Russia’s high casualty rate has significant domestic impact, but it is not yet.

      Definitely put you in charge of the enlistment PR team. LMAO

      With control of the media, Putin is able to paint a much rosier picture at home, and when his military’s ranks are swollen with convicts and North Koreans, the actual losses are of lower impact to begin with.

      That explains all the state controlled media encouraging all Russians to take lots of road trips. LMAO

      To put it another way: if Russia is currently losing, what would you call a state in which Russia stops advancing? What would you call a state in which Ukraine were able to take back - and then hold - territory?People who talk shit about how Russia is losing, is idiotic and so on, I think still have the mentality most people did in the first months of the invasion, when Russia had just been shown to be a complete paper tiger relative to prior expectations. A war they were supposed to win in a few days is still going, and they haven’t won it yet - a terrible humiliation for Russia.

      At least you’ve correctly identified Russia’s terrible humiliation. Special Military Operation. LMAO

      But the fact that they suffered a terrible humiliation, were ridiculously less powerful than most people believed, doesn’t mean they’re losing.

      Make that your first recruiting slogan. LMAO

      “Slowly gaining territory at great cost” is not losing.

      To learn more, contact your local Recriting Officer. LMAO

      Achieving a victory for Ukraine means a change from the current state of affairs; they need more weapons and support than they are currently receiving.

      Yeah, they’ve only been able to kill a smidgen over a million Russians with their meager resources. Thankfully, the Russians haven’t sustained any serious equipment losses. LMAO

      You haven’t actually disagreed with any of the potential things I pointed at Russia being able to do, or at Europe’s slow rearmament.

      Sorry, I wasn’t able to see any of your points through the field of one point one million sunflowers. LMAO

      Those were the substantive things.

      Of course they were. LMAO

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        11 hours ago

        Make that your first recruiting slogan. LMAO

        Most of your reply is just continuing down this nonsensical fantasy. Are you ok?

        You still haven’t replied to the points about European preparedness potential future russian aggression, and have now to top it all conflated casualties and deaths.

        Lmao indeed. But I’m guessing you won’t be laughing the next time a cargo ship registered conveniently in the Caribbean “accidentally” causes damage to Western interests. Will you then connect your complacency to what’s happening?

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          10 hours ago

          You still haven’t replied to the points about European preparedness potential future russian aggression, and have now to top it all conflated casualties and deaths.Lmao indeed.

          Russians have treachery going for them, and that’s about it. As far as military might is concerned, you can watch Russian soldiers, pilots, operators, drivers, vehicles explode in Ukraine. Up close and personal footage.

          But I’m guessing you won’t be laughing the next time a cargo ship registered conveniently in the Caribbean “accidentally” causes damage to Western interests. Will you then connect your complacency to what’s happening?

          Sabotage and treachery. This is what you do when you don’t have the Might. Whatever master plan you’re trying to spell out is an increasingly lame Hail Mary. If you want an accurate assessment of what they’re capable of militarily, land, air, or sea, watch them bleed during the Special Military Operation.

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            9 hours ago

            Cool! And since “sabotage and treachery” are perfectly capable of dealing great damage to Ukraine and other European nations alike, we should not be gung ho about Russia.

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              7 hours ago

              Cool! And since “sabotage and treachery” are perfectly capable of dealing great damage to Ukraine and other European nations alike, we should not be gung ho about Russia.

              Conversely, we can watch them hemorrhage abroad, while all their domestic refineries burn.