I’m Portuguese. And I see a lot of people here celebrating their failure in these local elections. But I’m just not that optimistic. The fact is that they still got a lot of sits in a lot of local assemblies. This means they become endemic to the system. Everywhere. This wasn’t a barring out the fascists parade people are making it out to be. Unfortunately. They are even celebrating the fact they even got a few (very few!) number of municipal sits. And why shouldn’t they? It’s a party that didn’t even existed ten years ago.
I’m glad that they very much failed by the metrics and polls that were so publicised in advance. But by no means this is a failure to them. And unfortunately so to the rest of the sane people here. Because now we have to deal with the same fanatic mentality of Maga Cult followers and even get the American slogan with it of “Make (insert whatever) Great Again”. In Portuguese, obviously, but I kid you not, when a lot of us saw that shit in Billboards we knew that it’s the same movement now. And they’re not even trying to disguise it anymore.
This is a financed global movement that is seeking to implode democracies so that the definitive version of Neo Feudalism of corporations has no hurdles or obstacles in their way.
NeoLiberalism died with the fall of the illusion of the center in the west. Now let’s see how long does the common voter (everywhere!) takes to realise how the board is being redrawn to cripple their sovereignty and control of their own lives and the social freedoms they fell asleep on because they took them for granted.
We’re no longer at odds with capitalism and its perverse incentives. Capitalism was the ladder that allowed the new “feudal Lords” to rise to dictate the rules of an old game rebranded new. Now name it whatever pleases the most… “Neo-Feudalism”, “Techno-Feudalism”, “Conglomerate-Feudalism”, doesn’t matter to me. But folk, don’t think we’re still playing the old “Landlord Game” or more famously known as “Monopoly”. That’s been over for a while. And the feudal powers at bay are no longer disguising themselves as landlords and investors or capitalists anymore. That’s over and done.
The fact that their proportional share was 23% in the legislative election and now has 12% is not indicative that support for them diminished?
Not really, local elections tend to have different results than the legislative elections, in Portugal.
For example, while PCP (communist party) has very small representation in our national parliament (2/170) it’s still the third largest party in number of mayor’s, way ahead of the far right.
The same applies to CDS (conservatives), that left the parliament a couple years ago (and came back last year) and were still able to elect 6 mayor’s.
Alô alô! Tão bom encontrar alguém Português no Lemmy! Quando a lemm.ee foi encerrada e saltei para a piefed.social não sabia que havia uma instance portuguesa. Foste tu que criaste a instance em que estás?
Tens algumas sugestões de comunidades portuguesas?
Oi! Também estive no lemm.ee 😅 Acho que o @tmpod@lemmy.pt foi o criador
Temos aqui muitas comunidades que precisavam de mais atividade, se fores ao lemmy.pt no navegador podes ver todas as comunidades
Puxando a brasa à minha sardinha, criei recentemente uma comunidade onde estou a tentar começar uma leitura acompanhada (embora esta semana esteja atrasado 😢). Se gostares do tópico ou não souberes do que se trata fica à vontade para deixar alguma pergunta!
Unfortunately no. Because in local elections people vote individuals they know locally and communally. This is also why parties with no expression in the legislatives anymore like CDU or PCP win sits in these local elections. People vote who they know, not along national party lines when voting locally. Independents never even make a dent in legislative elections and in these a few manage to actually win. And a few have in these again. Which is good.
But I keep saying, if the current coalition government fails, Chega might actually win the legislative elections.
The Presidential elections are at the beginning of next year, and even though Ventura (Chega’s leader) has almost virtual zero chance at getting the presidency, he’s just running the cycle of circus and noise one more round to pump up his maniac followers and attract the few idiots who haven’t joined their circus yet, so that he can set his sights on the prime minister position in the next legislatives. And that is where the worrying starts.
As a migrant in Portugal I agree with your concerns, but on the other hand I am happy that in my municipality (and the surrounding ones) Chega did quite badly and basically only a few idiots voted for them. Small wins and all that 🤷
Oh, hello fellow citizen in Portugal!
Celebrate away. They even did 10 times worst than the predictions suggested nationwide. That is really worthy of celebration indeed.
But I live in Algarve. And that alone should tell you everything. Even though they also did a lot worse than they expected down here, they still got a lot of sits in the municipal assemblies in the region. I haven’t checked Alentejo but I suspect a similar outcome. But it’s a lot of damage and interference they can generate nonetheless.
I’m also sad that Alexandra Leitão lost to Carlos Moedas in Lisbon. That is a huge blow to a very important region in the nation. I despise both PS and PSD, but Alexandra Leitão is the only example of a Leftist that PS has to offer, while Carlos Moedas is the worst kind that PSD has to show for and that is saying a lot.
But yeah, celebrate the small victories nonetheless. Just remain vigilant though.
If the whole left had united in Lisbon it might have been a different story, still very close though
