Seriously, what Israel is doing today is no different from what the Nazis did before and at the beginning of World War II, extreme nationalism, illegal expansion, annexation of foreign territory claiming it historically belongs to them, propaganda using the latest technology, terrorizing neighbors, military at the center of society.

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    looking at russia, you can see nazis everywhere. Even the putin’s Wagner terror group is based on nazism ideologies.

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    IMO it’s because the western oligarchs are making bank selling military tech to israel.

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      This is it. Israel is too profitable for them to detox from. They get to test out sick new tech to spy on and abuse their citizens, they get to put pressure on nations in the surrounding area with resources they want, and just the sheer amount of money selling weapons in general.

      It’s one of the most lucrative grifting exercises the western nations have ever designed.

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        What land? The booby trapped gravel pit that used to be Gaza? Nobody wants that.

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          Why would you say something so devoid of public knowledge or forethought? Settlers want it, because they claim it. Trump is talking about Trump Resort there.

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    Being a Nazi is not only not banned in most countries, in some like the US it’s explicitly legal (i.e. “Freedom of Speech”). That said, it is (kinda) banned in Germany, yet they are still around over here, because you can’t ban people from believing in stuff.

    All a state can do is to try and prevent them from gaining too much traction, and I do not feel like Zionism has all that much tbh. Israel’s recent actions are very unpopulat in the west, even though most people are not even affected by them in the slightest. Many of the people who protest them probably have no direct connection to Israel or Gaza. So what’s the goal of a ban even?

    I can only speak for Germany, but here an Israeli sniper and alledged murderer fled the country, bacause he is being persecuted for warcrimes, i.e. the murder of civilians. You also cannot call for the extermination of anyone without riscing consequences. This does not prevent people from being Nazis, Zionists or anything else. It just sanctions them for publicly expressing it.

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      ‘All a state can do is to try and prevent them from gaining too much traction, and I do not feel like Zionism has all that much tbh.’

      Are you serious? Just look around you ffs.

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    Nazism is only outright banned in a few democratic countries. Even in ones where it is, like Germany, there are parties that skirt around it, like AfD. Who are getting uncomfortably popular, BTW.

    It’s very hard to actually ban an ideology even in heavily authoritarian countries. Doubly so when it’s something that’s really hard to define, like Fascism. And no, the Ur-fascism paper isn’t even the final word on that subject.

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    Looking at America, obviously Nazism isn’t banned, we have elected a ton of the fuckers.

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    Capitalist countries rarely enforce their policies on right wing extremism. Fascism is a guard dog of capital they think they can keep leashed. In the 20th century that guard dog was pointed east so that it could harm the communists which threatened capital then. Today that guard dog is used to control resources in west asia and hide the dirtier work of imperialism that the west doesn’t want as seen on their hands. They can’t ban zionism because they need Israel and zionism is foundational to Israel.

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    Because those same countries were never ideologically opposed to fascism in the first place. America was a major inspiration for Hitler, namely in its jim crow laws and eugenics. Before world war 2, America loved Hitler. And the western powers are the reason why Zionism exists as an influential ideology to begin with. Britain gave the land for zionists to colonize to begin with. All of these same countries also committed the same atrocities themselves when colonizing places like the Americas, Africa, and Asia. Liberal governments have never been opposed to colonialism, genocide, or fascism.

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    Nazism isn’t “banned” per se, at least in the U.S. as the First Amendment does not allow for viewpoint discrimination, however repugnant a viewpoint might be. But the First Amendment does not protect against cultural, social, or other forms of non-government backlash for those who support disgusting ideologies like Nazism.

    So there is no “banning” that could take place of the Zionist viewpoint, if we were to consider it on par with Nazism. By and large in the U.S., Zionism and Nazism are not seen as equally repugnant viewpoints in the cultural landscape, hence the difference in how supporters of these views are treated. Hope that makes sense.

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    because Nazis was the enemy and declared war on them while Zionists are the west allies.