What is happening on this world ? Somebody wake me up please.
“Millenia ago, people used to tell the future from the entrails of dead animals. Later, it was tea leaves. If you ask me, humanity has made a lot of progress for very little gain.” - Jarvik, The Harvest of Kairos.
Religions using AI is an obvious move as religion has never been about a higher power, it’s about power,control, and money.
Had religions been about actual real higher powers then all of them would have been smited to hell and back for their behaviours.
There isn’t such a thing as a non evil religious organization
So AI is obvious for them. A system that can capture the less intelligent amongst us and make them members of the flock so that they get more money and power? Must be awesome
There isn’t such a thing as a non evil religious organization
What convinced you of this?
Name one
Confessing to a data mining company is such an absurd concept.
Chat GPT doesn’t judge you like all your friends/family will.
People are desperate something to talk to that doesn’t judge them.
Jesus forgives, you but our partners will never forget.
Well, at least this way they know for certain that something is listening to what they say. Most deities are awful when it comes to offering feedback.
For real, you should be confessing it to your preacher so they can use it to manipulate you.
This is sad on multiple levels. People are clearly hurting and willing to turn to LLMs trained on Reddit posts for help. I know there’s still a stigma for some people around mental illness, and for too many help is not covered by their health insurance and unaffordable otherwise, but this “solution” feels more like another problem in the making.
The stigma around therapy is shifting to people not trusting therapists to be effective. It doesn’t seem like people fault each other for having mental health struggles as much these days but people do not trust that a therapist will be of any help to them. When I talk with other people they say therapy was a waste of money/time even trying upwards of 10+ therapists.
If you’re hurting, it isn’t necessarily because you’re mentally ill. You could have empathy, for example.
It is. I’ve cautiously broached it with a lot of skeptical openness and the sycophancy is really going to harm people. It’s like going to AITA or relationshipadvice — it’s going to tell you that you are completely justified and should get a divorce, stand up to your boss, do the self-righteous thing, etc.
And that’s great, sometimes those are the answers. But other times maybe loneliness will be worse than accepting the other person. Maybe you aren’t being treated fairly at work but it beats being unemployed. Getting pumped up to storm in and demand satisfaction isn’t always the best way to handle things and sometimes we need a little more self-awareness and encouragement to look within ourselves for change.
ChatGPT doesn’t get any of that because Reddit never got any of that (certainly not enough). And when folks blow up their lives, it’s not ChatGPT that will suffer.
That being said, if you just want a sympathetic ear to listen and you take it like Charlie from work, who has never had a relationship last longer than a case of PBR, telling you to divorce that bitch — it can help people feel heard, help them voice and be aware of their feelings. In some cases it is better than nothing, but I think few people will approach it with the awareness to take the good and leave the bad.
And that doesn’t even cover the privacy concerns. I wouldn’t want to be in a situation to have my ChatGPT history to be subpoenaed.
Oh good. A population empowered by the ultimate “yes and” affirmation machine to believe all their opinions are perfect and they don’t need to compromise with each other.
From a local community of a few thousand to isolated online community of a few hundred to a private discord server of a few to just you and AI.
Strangely enough this is the exact same path addiction leads to.
…Hail Mary and and an Our Father for penance. Really though, you can’t be so hard on yourself. Maybe those orphanages needed to burn, have you ever thought that maybe it was God who put that gas can into your hands? Let yourself live in the moment, don’t be afraid to share your spark with the world.
I am beginning to think it was a bad idea to prioritize engagement and retention over safety.
So Terry Davis was right… I guess. Who’s going to put an AI into TempleOS to honor him?
30 million morons.
Well…
From an evolutionary standpoint, we’re basically the same collection of mostly-hairless primates that, 20,000 years ago, hadn’t yet figured out agriculture and were roaming the land in small groups of maybe 100 or so at most, living off it as best we could.
From that standpoint, I think that we’ve done pretty well with a brain that evolved to deal with a rather different environment and is having to navigate a terribly-confusing, rather different situation.
I mean, you see any other critters that have been outperforming us on improving their understanding of the world?
Well that for one, but also self destruction of their environment for living in roughly 150 years. Chapeau!
So yeah I think we were doing well at some point. Now we’re here.
Also we need to redefine success.
Why? Is it somehow better to go to an actual church or pay someone to confide in?
People using technology to fill a need on the company’s funds is not the worst thing in the world.
Is it somehow better to go to an actual church or pay someone to confide in?
Objectively yes.
A real person isn’t a stochastic parrot yes-anding whatever stupid idea falls out of your head and is less likely to provide obsequious responses to questions asked.
A real person is less likely to compile what you say to them and mine data from it or turn it over to authorities without a warrant.
A real person also has the ability to actually understand what you’re saying and provide an intelligent response rather than getting back a statistical block of words that are mathematically good words to use based on the underlying model.
having the ability to do so doesn’t necessarily mean they will do so.
There are plenty of terrible therapists, preists, family, and friends out there. Personally I gave up on asking for people for ‘advice’ 20 years ago.
having the ability to do so doesn’t necessarily mean they will do so.
No, but they have a profit motive to do so. And I’d rather assume the worst and be wrong rather than deal with another 23andMe situation in a decade. Because it will happen eventually. VC money isn’t endless, and they’re pissing away money like a pro athlete in a club.
You can trust them if you want, but I’m not naive enough to do that myself.
There are plenty of terrible therapists, preists, family, and friends out there.
Preaching to the choir, I’ve dumped people from all noted categories for being shitty. I gave up on therapy about 15 years ago but my partner convinced me to go back. I looked for someone who fit my specific needs, and found someone who is rebuilding my trust in therapists
I trust my therapist not to randomly decide to give out my info because their job relies on that. AI chat bots flat out tell you they will use what you give them for their ‘training’ purposes, which means they have access to it and can use it or sell it as they please.
For some people, paying with their data is a lot cheaper than paying for therapy or religion. I do not fault them for this, especially if they are getting similar results.
if they are getting similar results.
That ‘if’ is doing a hurculean amount of effort, given the reports of ChatGPT psychosis, because again, you’re dealing with a stochastic parrot not a real person giving you actual advice.
Believe it or not AI results are doing fine, which is why people use it.
Yes they will produce some funny/tragic results that are both memeable and newsworthy, but by and large they do what they are asked.
If the results were poor you wouldn’t have adoption and your AI problem is solved.
We have had chat bots since the late 90s. No one used them for therapy.
Yes, touching grass and talking to someone with life experience and their own opinions is better than talking to an LLM that agrees and validates everything you say, doesn’t hold you accountable, and siphons your data, all while you get more and more mentally ill (because people treat talking to an LLM like they’re talking to a Cortana like AGI, but the limitations of machine learning make it literally fucking impossible).
Well, we already know that the religious are stupid
Technology just helps them to be stupid more efficiently
Let me guess, the server on which the prompts are processed are located in the US, and the police has unlimited access to them?
yeah and they’re built from crawling reddit and facebook
Well, that worries more for people using it for “therapy”.
A whole bunch of Star Trek episodes all becoming true at once
We’re cooked
Bless me
FatherChat GPT for I have sinned.the most frequent question from users is, “Is this actually God I am talking to?”
🤣🤣🤣
Oh boy, we should drive them out of our country, and give them a country of their own.
Oh wait…We already did, and the name of that country is USA!
