that would definitely be a big improvement to implement rn without radical changes, but it still wouldnt be fair, youd still be sometimes taking money from someones rent and sometimes taking money from someones investments. it’s also punitive justice which doesn’t work. i dont think the government should intentionally hurt people
2.2 million yuan […] This includes 2m yuan for operational and reputational damage, 130,000 yuan to one of the caterers for tableware losses and cleaning expenses, and 70,000 yuan in legal costs.
punitive would be paid to the state? “fine” and “fined” don’t show up in the article at all. not exactly sure where the other 200k are going
idk this seems like a situation where money can pretty directly restore a lot of the harm done and i wouldn’t trust those kids to work in the restaurant like the old trope of getting dish duty when you can’t pay the diner for your meal. Making them do a few thousand hours of “community service” doesn’t repair their victims.
you can avoid much of that particular flaw with fines by scaling them to income (or wealth if you’re clever enough)
that would definitely be a big improvement to implement rn without radical changes, but it still wouldnt be fair, youd still be sometimes taking money from someones rent and sometimes taking money from someones investments. it’s also punitive justice which doesn’t work. i dont think the government should intentionally hurt people
punitive would be paid to the state? “fine” and “fined” don’t show up in the article at all. not exactly sure where the other 200k are going
i dont like when people have to pay money for things
idk this seems like a situation where money can pretty directly restore a lot of the harm done and i wouldn’t trust those kids to work in the restaurant like the old trope of getting dish duty when you can’t pay the diner for your meal. Making them do a few thousand hours of “community service” doesn’t repair their victims.
I don’t think giving the international bourgeoisie money is restorative justice, but that could just be me.
ok we are very far afield from “oh this is damages, not fines” now.